Posted by Paulbwell on August 27, 2007, at 20:23:15
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine VsDesoxyn?, posted by alohashirt on August 26, 2007, at 9:34:59
> My two cents:
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> I find amphetamines more sleep-inducing than methylphenidate.I too found this to be true. When i had a short trial of Dexamphetamine, after taking the first 5mg tab i fell into a VERY deep sleep for 2 hours and upon waking-felt totally refreshed. I felt as if i had slept a solid eight hours, this faded, but ensuing doses continued to cause sloathfullness and a lack of desire to do much bar lying on my bed and relaxing, which lead to it's discontinuation. I did try 5mgs Dex+10mgs Methylphenidate combined a couple times (Doc told me to throw away remaining Ritalin when Dex was given-i didn't) and found almost total relief of symptoms, however he told me they couldn't be taken together.
> and found quite I found Focalin XR to be very different than Focalin. It starts out sharp and clear and is more "front-loaded" than Concerta.
> Focalin XR is also much more consistent than amphetamines. The amphetamines can be strongly affected by food or acidic drinks.
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> Stimulants don't make up for lack of sleep or fitness. If you aren't getting great sleep then exercise and more sleep will help.The meds work better when good sleep pattens are adhered to-yes.
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> Provigil or Olmifon (modafinil or adrafinil) can help with daytime sleepiness in a way that is complementary to stimulants.
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> Wellbutrin can also help with sleepiness and ADHD.Here it's only approaved for smoking cessation threapy.
> Less obvious but also helpful if you have mild depression (35% of ADHD people do) is Lexapro or Celexa.
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> It's also worth doing bloodwork and checking thyroid levels and, if you are male, testosterone levels.
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> Fish oil, 5HTP, Ginko Biloba and L-Theanine are also worth considering.3 grammes EPA is recommended-it helps. Green tea is rich in L-theanine, which relaxes and also inhibits the Dopamine destroying enzymes-enhancing stimulant meds actions.
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> Hope something here helps.
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