Posted by Marc Boucher on March 26, 2007, at 10:25:18
In reply to Re: It doesn't sound as though it's neurochemical » Marc Boucher, posted by Racer on March 25, 2007, at 15:26:21
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> > First I wish to thank you for commenting.
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> Sure, it's what we do here...
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> > I want and have to point out that I'm not bored having sex with my girlfriend at all--Yes it seems very paradoxical that I still masterbate everyday, yet on the other hand complain of a low sex drive--I hear you. The reason I do not have much sex with my girlfriend is because I don't feel like it--now why don't I feel like it ? Because my drive is low to non-existent. Like I said, I do not get turned on much by other women, be it on the web or in real life situations.
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> I don't think I said you were "bored" with sex with your girlfriend -- and I certainly didn't mean to suggest that you were more turned on by other women. I just said that daily masturbation is not consistent with non-existant sex drive. I still don't think it is, I think what you're talking about isn't a low libido, but a low interest in sex with a partner, for whatever reason. "Non-existant sex drive," something I've got some experience with, by the way, includes little or no masturbation. That whole area may as well not exist. Your "area" seems to exist for you, even though you aren't having the sex life you'd like.
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> Again, that sounds more psychological than biochemical to me.
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> > The other issues with personalities, I guarantee you I can deal on my own, because I'm capable of much introspection.
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> Introspection isn't all it takes, although it can be a start. Working with a good psychologist really does make a difference. On one's own, it's too easy to fall into a pattern of thought, a pattern of perception, which may be somewhat skewed by whatever problem we've got going on to begin with. Whether that's a fixation caused by obsessive compulsive issues, or hopelessness/helplessness caused by depression. It can be very difficult to make changes to one's life without some outside perspective.
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> But if you're sure you don't need to see anyone to improve things, go for it. Good luck with it.
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> > Another physical issue that's been found as a result of laboratory essays, is that my 24-hour urinary Cortisol is on the low side.
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> I think you're looking too hard at the biochemical, and missing a lot of options in the psychosocial sphere.
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> That said, I took Paxil for a number of years, and it didn't lower my sex drive. I had trouble achieving orgasm, but cyproheptidine helps a lot of people with that side effect. Otherwise, I had a whole lot more interest in sex than before taking the Paxil. I'm not a big fan of Paxil, per se -- Prozac or Zoloft seemed like better drugs to me -- but it's still probably worth trying.
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> Good luck.
You definately have good points above. You're most certainly right about the sex drive part. Should I had no sex drive at all, masterbation wouldn't fit in this picture. Let's sex that the quality and intensity of my orgasms and overall interest in sex is low, whereas it used to be high, and I don't experience equally as good sensations down there. I may have overlooked the psychological issues, but one shouldn't overlook the hormonal side as well. the hormonal, neurotransmitter and immune cytokines form a 3 dimensional web of mutual influence. Reason why I'm telling you this is cause when I have 10 mg DHEA, I can tell you this makes me quite horny--I've repeated this experiment a number of times and the outcome is consistent over time. So there has to be more than the psychological aspect involved.I'll tell you what a retired researcher in endocrinology has told me last year : ''behavior and psychology are neurochemistry''. Of course not everyone will agree, and even among specialists, there's disagreement, but I think his opinion should be considered, given his credentials.
Good to hear that Paxil hadn't decreased your sex drive--Most will however experience sexual dysfunctions of some kind i.e. you experienced anorgasmia, because serotonin can block Norepinephrine signaling, and Norepi. is needed for orgasm.
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