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Re: Ashton Rocks! » yxibow

Posted by Quintal on February 5, 2007, at 0:17:37

In reply to Re: Ashton Rocks! » dbc, posted by yxibow on February 4, 2007, at 22:22:45

Something seems wrong with my last post - can't seem to load it into my web browser. I'll repost it here just in case it's disabled for some reason.

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> My problem was not with ashton nor did i say anything negative of her except that the titration schedules she reccomends seem extremely long and not needed.

I would concur on that
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In his initial post dbc posted this statement:

>Despite how nice it is what she said The Ashton Manual is complete and utter b*llshit.

Hardly a complement to the venerable Prof. Heather Ashton.

Prof. Ashton's suggested taper schedules are extremely long so as to give people plenty of space and time to adjust their lives around the schedule and produce no withdrawal symptoms at all if followed correctly. She has always maintained that people should adjust the schedules according to their own preferences and reduce the dose at their own pace, not hers, the doctors, the psychiatrist's or anyone else's. Believe me, that way is much better than a Gestapo style 'tough love' withdrawal advocated by some of the true ani-benzo fanatics.

>Its not clear that benzo.org.anti is "run" by her -- it seems to be some other person disseminating information. I'm not clear of the connection between the foresaid individual and the site.

I don't think benzo.org is run by Heather Ashton. I also suspect she has never launched a publicity campaign against benzos herself, but she has taken up invitations to give evidence as a professional speaker on their behalf. I know she has done her best to dissociate herself from those groups who have tried to use her work as a weapon in their scare-mongering to get benzos off the market.

>I too think the whole thing is kind of scary and we've had several "trolls" about benzodiazepines not to mention a recent person I won't mention who seems to be anti-medicine and new to the board.

You finding a particular poster's views upsetting does not make them a 'troll'. I hope you're not trying to imply any connection between myself and that person yxibow? By co-incidence he contacted me via RemedyFind some months ago and I told him my honest opinion then; that I think his perceived lingering symptoms of EPS from a single dose of amisulpride are psychosomatic and the result of negative expectations. Everything I've seen posted here since by that individual has reinforced my suspicions.

I started this thread when I came across Prof. Ashton's letter to Rosie Winterton earlier today when researching for a quote for a different thread. I thought it was excellent and strongly suggested that she is not a benzophobic fanatic that will stop at nothing to rid the UK of those drugs and crush their users. That idea is just absurd, yet it remains incredibly popular here.

I think it's about time someone stood up for Heather Ashton with all the hard work she's done to help people caught up in benzo addiction against their will. What she did for benzos in the 1980s is similar to what many people here wish someone would do for drugs like Paxil and Effexor with their claims of unparalleled freedom from side-effects and withdrawal symptoms - she was an active professional that stood up to the medical profession against fierce criticism, to defend people who were suffering with no support and much ignorance and denial on the part of their doctors. I think she deserves some cheer for that and recognition for her effort, not derision and mindless sniping.

>I think I will stay out of the foray

You entered the foray when you decided to post here.

Q


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