Posted by musky on October 5, 2006, at 22:31:54 [reposted on October 22, 2006, at 16:53:23 | original URL]
In reply to Re: Challenging modern psychiatry » SLS, posted by Jost on October 5, 2006, at 18:50:34
>Yes Im sure there is alot of debate,, whatever the case,, the point remains the same .. withdrawl only happens when you discontinue a drug... and the article i referred to just simply states some of the information that is out there to help people make an educated decision about there medications ..
How do you know that the sentence from the article is not true? were you at the study?
These are real people with real effects from the drugs just telling thier experiences..
and no I dont think that lady would have relapsed sooner..
Im told the chance of relapse increases if you stay on the drug.. so again another opinion from a trained professional , I might add.
I guess we can debate forever... bottom line.. the PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING WHEN IT COMES TO HOW A PERSON FEELS ON A MED.. AND IF THEY TRULY ARE HAPPY AND WELL.
No doctor, family member, counsellor, etc, etc, can honestly say how a person feels inside. questionares that patients take are a guideline , not the "actual" feelings that they may have.
Now we need to get back to the task at hand, and that is helping people to cope with withdrawls.. and get through them ,
MuskyAs Scott points out, there's been a lot of debate on the main Psychobabble board not only about placebos vs. ADs, but also Greenberg et al.
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> Meanwhile, I note that the following sentence from the article is definitely not true:
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> "While some of this debate breaks down along familiar lines -- psychologists resisting the tendency to reduce all mental suffering to biology versus psychiatrists more comfortable with matter than spirit -- no one disputes that the statistics about antidepressant efficacy are dismal, and that they do little to clarify the question of whether people who get better on antidepressants do so because they are taking Prozac or Zoloft or because they are taking a pill -- any pill."
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> Cleaerly there are lots of people who dispute that the statistics are dismal etc-- not as good as one would like/wish is not the same as dismal.
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> This overstatement does nothing to enhance my confidence in the arguments of the article.
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> I also tend to be concerned that if the person in the case history reported were, in fact, told-- "You did this"-- and had gone off the drug, she would have relapsed sooner or later, perhaps sooner. I may be wrong in my suspicion, but it's my fear that it would have turned out that way.
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