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Re: desipramine vs stimulants for comorbid ADD/ De

Posted by ADDmom32 on March 30, 2006, at 1:42:49

In reply to Re: desipramine vs stimulants for comorbid ADD/ De, posted by med_empowered on March 29, 2006, at 15:59:01

> Neuroeltpics are used for Oppositional Defiant Disorder, an increasing number of ADD/ADHD cases, management of childhood-onset bipolar disorder, and of course psychotic disorders of varying sorts. There have been some news articles lately showing that more and more children are receiving antipsychotics at younger and younger ages. Also, a couple years ago the state of Florida found that its foster children tended to be waaaay overmedicated for "disorders" that seemed to disappear after they turned 18. Former foster children have come forward to speak out about lingering ill-effects, like poor memory and concentration. Some of the combos RX'd by shrinks for these kids were ridiculous--2+ stimulants, various anitpsychotics, mood-stabilizers, so on and so forth.


Your thoughts on this subject just made me want to jump up and scream "YEAH!"

I'm ADD - take Adderall XR and Cymbalta for depression. This combo works for me BUT my personal experience is that there is NO magic pill/combo. Diet, exercise and talk therapy have been pertinent to my "recovery". ALL of that is HARD WORK for someone who is depressed.

Now imagine you are a depressed parent trying to cope with an ADD/ADHD, ODD, or PTS child or two or three ... now imagine the kid is NOT yours, you don't have that "bond" and there are no "precious memories" to get you through the chaos and pain an emotionally unstable child can dish out.

Dr. says give the kid this magic pill/combo and you can shut him up and then you don't have to deal with child, complaining teachers, babysitters (parents HAVE to go to work) & maybe you can get kid back on school bus.
Seems like quick easy crisis mgmt.

But backlash is HEAVY.

I KNOW my "disorders" come from my childhood/young adult history. I'm sure I was born with plenty of "chemical predisposition" but I have NO DOUBT environment has played a HUGE role.

My son was diagnosed as ODD at 5 years of age.
I was blessed with a wonderful child Psy Dr and a Psychologist who worked together with me to help me with parenting skills, behavior modification, and my own depression. Through the grace of God, sending me this wonderful support team I have never put any of my children on any drugs.

BUT it's HARD, HARD, work. And not just for me.

In many ways the practice of doping up kids for their behavior is not so different from antibiotics prescrpts for every cold. Parents swear they WANT, sometimes NEED a quick crisis mgmt solution... DEMAND it.
Dr.s are human too. It takes a tremendous amount of morale fiber and emotional strength not to "just give it to 'em".


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