Posted by Tomatheus on December 24, 2005, at 12:38:23
In reply to Re: Nardil weight gain » Tomatheus, posted by gardenergirl on December 23, 2005, at 10:33:26
Gardenergirl,
Thanks again for your message. With each day that I've spent on 75mg, I've been realizing more and more that my condition definitely is improving, even though I'm not getting a full response. As pervasive as my depression has been for the last six years, it is sometimes easy to forget how miserable I used to feel when I wasn't taking any meds and when I was taking meds that didn't help *at all* (or made things worse). When I think about how I feel when I'm truly depressed, it becomes obvious that the Nardil is working. I'm not quite as energetic and enthusiastic about everything as I'd like to be, but I really haven't been feeling terribly depressed as of late. I've found that I've become more productive and functional as of late, and I actually don't mind feeling this way too much. Of course, I may be speaking too soon, but I think that I might be starting to feel Nardil's "true" effect instead of the startup effect that I felt immediately after switching from 60mg/day to 75mg/day. The startup effect, as I call it, has never lasted for more than two weeks after switching to a particular dose, and I've now been at 75mg for two weeks and four days. So, the response I'm getting may be the real thing, even though it's not absolutely superb.
I'll be seeing my pdoc again in another 2 1/2 weeks or so, and depending on how I feel in the time between now and then, we'll probably either keep me at 75mg or go up to 90mg. I definitely will talk to him about the increased side effects so we could discuss the possibility of using some add-on meds.
Thanks for your suggestions, and happy holidays again.
Tomatheus
> > Actually, I haven't gained any weight since I started Nardil 11 1/2 weeks ago (I've been at 75mg/day for the last two weeks). Not even a little weight gain.
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> That's great. I seem to start gaining again whenever I change the dose I've gone sort of back and forth between 45 and 67.5, depending on how I'm doing. I keep trying to lower, and I'm finding it's not a good idea.
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> >I do think that the problem of anorganisma, however, has set in. And my hypotension and urinary retention are getting worse, as well. Oh yeah, and the insomnia is horrible.
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> The anorgasmia tends to go away in time, about 3-4 months in my case. Although it may be different for men and women. I deal with urninary retention and the subsequent edema by occasionally taking Lasix. Come to think of it, this time at 60 mg, I'm not experiencing that. Yeah! Severe insomnia is partly why I couldn't tolerate 75 mg.
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> >I seem to feel slightly less depressed than I normally do, and even a little less depressed than I did at 60mg. I'm still not getting anything close to a robust response, though, so I'm not sure if it's going to be worth it or not. Maybe things will improve with more time and one more dose increase. We'll see.
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> Glad you're getting some response. Ace is a big proponent of going to 90 mg, so maybe that will do the trick for you. Talk to your doctor about the side effects. There may be meds to deal with those.
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> gg
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