Posted by Larry Hoover on December 15, 2005, at 0:34:45
In reply to Re: Tracy, Breggin, and other quacks..., posted by linkadge on December 14, 2005, at 22:17:10
> Med-Empowered and I were refering the other day to some of the studies that showed how mice exposed to SSRI's for exended periods of time developed "corkscrewed" serotonin receptors.
Do you have any idea of the doses used in that study? Off the top of my head, I think it was 360 times the maximum human dose, maintained for 12 weeks (equivalent to 15 years of a human life span). And I think the hypothalamic dendrites were corkscrewed, not the receptors. I don't recall for sure.
> This is one of the studies refered to by Breggin.Who should have known better to simply generalize to people taking the drug as prescribed. There are toxic thresholds. Novel effects that only occur at or above certain concentrations. These are called toxicoses. There is no reasonable extrapolation from that mouse experiment to any human experience conceivable.
> People like to call him a quack, because if the studies he referrs to are true than that changes a lot.
He's a quack because he cherry-picks quotations from studies, reports secondary and tertiary references as if they were primary, reports data out of context, and ignores the published conclusions of the study authors. He also has been shown to fabricate the odd bit of data.
> A psychiatrist may infact believe the study and yet still not tell you this, mainly because he thinks its in your best interest not to know.
That's an easy straw man argument to raise.
> Referring to Breggin as a "quack" makes life easier...... for the time beingBreggin likes to sell books. He does not do primary research. He "mines" other peoples work, and creates a collage. Breggin is better at it than Tracy. He actually knows better, but does it anyway.
> whoa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha......(sorry)
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> LinkadgeIf you've got the time, you can take Breggin apart, too.
I'm amazed I stayed up to post these. Enough. G'nite.
Lar
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