Posted by Ame Sans Vie on November 9, 2005, at 9:53:03
In reply to Re: US Govt says D-amp is 5x more stimulating than » Ame Sans Vie, posted by Chairman_MAO on November 9, 2005, at 8:35:39
> This is a well-known fact, demonstrated who knows how many thousands of times. l-methamphetamine is even exempt from the CSA because it barely even makes a good decongestant.
I'm sorry, I'm not sure I made myself very clear -- I was sort of rushed typing that post. I've long known about the vast difference between D-meth and the crappy L-meth in the Vicks Inhalers. Apparently they're trying to make up for the obvious direct marketing to speed freaks via the bold, italic words that used to be on the front of the box reading "Levmetamfetamine", as I noticed fairly recently that now all of the sudden they've changed the name of the drug on the box to "L-Desoxyephedrine", lol. But anyways, yeah, I know levomethamphetamine is no fun -- I'd rather cook up the contents of some Benzedrex Inhalers and settle for the propylhexadrine buzz than try to catch one from L-meth.
But back to my point -- they asserted in that PDF that plain old dexamphetamine is 5x more stimulating than levoamphetamine (though they failed to clarify if that was CNS stimulation or peripheral...). I always thought the general consensus was that dex was about twice as potent, but with fewer peripheral effects? But like I said, I'm certainly not disagreeing with them... well, maybe just a little, but only because I don't know about *five* times more stimulating... maybe three and a half times? lol I just would like a copy of whatever study they're referring to, or something.
> An organic chem friend of mine (who is about to get a PhD) said that it IS possible to make d-meth out of l-meth, despite what the government thinks. Isn't that a hoot?It's funny you bring that up -- I've been brushing up lately on what little organic chemistry I used to know and learning quite a bit more as well. What's funny is that I happened across a newsgroup post just last night wherein someone posted the procedure to reverse chirality of the levomethamphetamine stereoisomer.
> d-deprenyl is also a relatively potent psychostimulant with neuroprotective properties that is metabolized into d-amphetamine and d-methamphetamine, incedentally. It would probably be covered under the analog act, though, but I have never heard of a d-deprenyl prosecution.
Huh, thanks for the info -- I'd never even given a thought to dextroratory selegiline, to tell you the truth, but hey, I guess ya learn something new every day. :-)
Take care,
~Michael
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