Posted by KaraS on January 4, 2005, at 1:54:18
In reply to Re: I want to be a Parnate champion!, posted by Willyee on January 3, 2005, at 23:36:30
> > > I have to admit I've been romantisizing/obsessing about Parnate for the last month. hehe
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> > > I had 100% remission of my dysthymia, social anxiety symptoms about a month ago when I added the herb Vitex to my Prozac, Wellbutrin, Adderall, tyrosine, caffeine combo.
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> > > The dopamine agonist properties of the Vitex gave me a huge improvement in my confidence, self-esteem, and assertiveness. My personality also became much more extroverted, and humourous. It was like I was finally the way I was supposed to be. My moods also stabilized quite significantly.
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> > > This lasted for about 3 weeks then it pooped out. I've taken Vitex before and everytime I take it, it works magically then poops out after a month. I was hoping that this time the effect might stay due to the other meds I was on possibly altering my brain chemistry in some way to prevent this.
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> > > So... basically I am trying to think of options to regain that social anxiety annilation that I've had before. The addition of stronger dopamine agonists like bromocriptine, cabergoline, or mirapex I was thinking about, but considering their infamous poopout rates as well I thought there must be a better option.
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> > > I've been spending the last few weeks combing through all the posts on this site that are relevant to Parnate to try and learn as much as possible about it. I understand that it is quite dopaminergic, as well as quite great for social anxiety. I believe my social anxiety is more dopamine related than GABA as the Vitex has 100% wiped out the SA in the past.
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> > > So, is anyone else romantisizing about the MAOi's Parnate and Nardil? They seem to be so extremely effective with respect to social anxiety and atypical depressions, that they are a head above the rest.
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> > > I'll try and write a few more of my thoughts later as I'm just on the way to the gym and feel like I need to get off my chest/collaborate a few ideas concerning the use of Parnate.
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> > > p.s. I'm addicted to the success stories as well. I find myself reading them over and over again. Posts from Ace, Cybercafe, King Vultan, Dan Perkins, etc... I find them very inspiring!
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> > Same here - but I'm not as much of an "optimist" as you are. I'm researching it like crazy but I fear I won't even be able to tolerate it.
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> Dont worry to much about tolerating it,or you might have placebo effects from the worrying.Most people are able to tolerate it well,you might have some discomfort the first few days as u are introduced to the med,i rember a tightening feeling in my head,but that quickly subsided when i got used to the med.
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> And that will be the thing,you will get used to it,and find for yourself the specific foods,etc to avoid,for myself soy sauce is all,i pretty much have had zero food interactions with it over the 4 years.
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> One thing to look forward to is,if it does work,the first few weeks of taking it are gold,they are the best cause for the first time in a long time you actualy take a med that works.The biggest concern more so than tolerance i think some should worry,is what youll see us veterans dealing with,and that is parnate is notorious for poop-out,we augment it to high heavens,adjust dosages,do everything we can think of to achieve that magic we know the med is capable of producing,we know this cause it is what we felt the first few weeks on it,good luck,hopefully youll have the tiny red pill sitting in your room soon,then like me hopefully you can grab that big bag of sssris you had been put on times over,and have a cermonial flushing.I tossed tons of usesless meds when i got on parnate,and dont miss a single one.
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>So it's still working for you - just not at the original level?
I probably won't have that initial amphetamine type high since amphetamines put me to sleep - they don't make me feel high at all. My concern with tolerating it is more that I'll be able to stay awake.
Flushing all of the useless medicine sounds good though. :-)
Thanks,
K
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