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Re: estrogen and the brain » raybakes

Posted by tealady on November 28, 2004, at 15:54:31 [reposted on November 29, 2004, at 22:27:56 | original URL]

In reply to Re: estrogen and the brain » jasmineneroli, posted by raybakes on November 28, 2004, at 14:45:08

> Has anyone tried the 'tri-est' estrogen with a natural balance of estradiol, estrone and estriol?
>
> Ray
>
Hi Ray,
Well I know Triest has 80% estriol, 10% estradiol, 10% estrone

and Biest ahs 80% estriol, 20% estradiol

or you can just get plain estradiol (supposedly the more "potent" form. ..with estriol therefore supposedly the least dangerous form (as far as cancer goes)..but I don't think the knowledge is that great
And estrone - estradiol can convert to each other in body, although there is concerns about estrone pathways
And they all metabolise presumably to estriol
Oh yes, and when pregnant ..3rd trimester? we are suppposed to have more estriol in our bodies..so if that felt great , one supposedly feels better with estriol..although I think we had a lot of progesterone too...
Well that's the story anyway.

testing for estrogen levels best done day 13,14 of 28 day cycle..count backwards ..*grins*
testing for progesterone around day 20-21...also count backwards from 28 days..with day 1 being first day of menses... (so if cycle is going to be shorter you test earlier etc)

so its best to have estradiol tested mid cycle ..and progesterone (and estradiol as well if you like) tested at day 21 say...these are the peaks usually

Now what I can't find out is exactly what ranges/average the typical premenstrual female(nonpregnant and healthy and not overweight) is really supposed to have as far as ratios of estradiol/estriol/estrone ....

I bet its NOT the triest ratio.

I'd like to know exactly what the ratio IS in a normal say 25 to 35 yr old female who is not over weight and a non smoker, I'd love to see any research on it. (smoking lowers levels)..and fat makes estrone I think?

I heard that until recently they used to test more hormones etc. on males (females too complicated)....so that was real helpful!

Progesterone converts to estrogen a litle but far more to cortisol,...which is why it feels great for most when you start on it..but a lot of girls feel bad after a year of progesterone only although I'm sure there are exceptions.

I'd like to hear from anyone who has stayed on progesterone only for longer than a year..without going a bit cushingoid-like. (I'm sure girls exist)

Jan



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