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Re: klono provigil-any magnification when combini » alesta

Posted by Rick on October 1, 2004, at 2:53:32

In reply to Re: klono provigil-any magnification when combini » Waki, posted by alesta on September 29, 2004, at 23:11:13

> hi, wak! thanks! the provigil wakes you up but without producing anxiety like the stimulants do..that's one thing that's so great about it (among many).

I agree completely. Been on 1 mg/day Klonopin + 100mg/day Provigil, for 4 years now for severe, non-depressive generalized social phobia. Once in awhile 100 mg Provigil doesn't seem to do the trick wakefulness-wise, but that's very much the exception to the rule for me.

> > The only thing you may want to watch is to make sure the provigil does not cancle out the klon.
>
> i definitely will, and will increase my klon dose if necessary..good to hear from you, man! :)
>

I've had no need to increase my Klonopin dose when I added Provigil. A few posts above, it was suggested that Provigil induces Klonopin metabolism, i.e. lowers Klonopin blood levels. But, unless there's been some recent new evidence, I don't believe it works that way.

Animal research shows that Provigil can indeed speed up metabolism of drugs that are substrates of liver enzyme CYP3A4 *and also have significant first-pass metaolism in the gut* (e.g., Halcion). While Klonopin is indeed a substrate of CYP3A4, it doesn't undergo first-pass metabolism, and thus would not have a metabolic interaction with Provigil.

As always, YMMV.

Rick



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