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Re: Klonopin and sleep and 3 am to 6 am:Racer??? Dinah

Posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 21:50:18

In reply to Re: Klonopin and sleep and 3 am to 6 am, posted by Dinah on August 30, 2004, at 11:36:24

> I have noticed some pretty late postings from you. :( I figured we might be sisters of the three am awakenings.

Yeah, sometimes I just bag it and get up and go online. But it's been better lately. I hope it gets better for you!
> I just spent the morning on largely unprofitable google searches. The best I can figure out is that the earlier cycles of sleep have less REM and are deeper than the later cycles of sleep.

Nardil suppresses REM sleep, so this kind of makes sense to me.

>And that our sleep cycles are based partly on our circadian rhythms, which would explain why it doesn't really matter when I get to bed - 3 am is still the magic number.

That makes sense, too. Although one night I went to bed earlier...about 10:00. And I woke up at 1:30 instead. My body seems to not allow me to sleep more than 4 hours at a time. Even when I am dog-tired and nap...4 hours max. (I know, that's not really a nap...that's sleeping in the middle of the day...but still. 4 hours...)
> I also read something I don't fully understand about cortisol being in high levels in that time, but I can't draw any conclusions about it, since I didn't understand it. :)

Maybe Racer can jump in on this. She's been researching cortisol and also gave me some info about insomnia recently, I think. Or maybe I dreamed that? ;) (I miss my dreams...they are gone again at 67.5 mg of Nardil.)
> I also found out that my sleep study may not have been valid due the meds I was on at the time. Sigh.

Bummer. I actually called today about an advertisement for a sleep study for a new med targetting early awakening. I'm not eligible due to the Nardil. Dang. Making money, getting free sleep study results, and maybe taking a med that might help....wish I was eligible....

Take care and sleep well.




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