Posted by BarbaraCat on July 30, 2004, at 15:18:08
In reply to Re: Opiates for depression, posted by J. Backer on July 29, 2004, at 15:39:14
Hi,
Your message really made me think about addiction. I have ready access to oxycodone because of fibromyalgia pain. 2.5mg consistently affects me and 5mg is about all I need for a day. Sometimes I feel serene, othertimes activated, othertimes just dopey. Too much and I feel jaggy and wired and weird, which is opposite of what the going rap is on 'euphoric opiods'. They make me speedy and I can clean house like a demon! I don't understand this paradoxical effect thing.If someone said I could never have another pill I'd have a moment of 'acckk!' but not for long. Days go by and I don't think about taking one. Now, this is a bit different from my few experiences with smoking opium. THAT was a euphoric high and one that I just might be a tad too drawn to if were readily available.
I wonder about why someone, such as yourself, gets hooked immediately. Why do you think that happens to you? I had a jones with meth about 30 years ago. Now that was a substance that had a hold on me because I felt so awful when it wore off. Something about my chemistry craved whatever meth gave me, which makes me consider where I might be shortchanged biochemically, as in dopamine. What do you think it is with you? Something that one person can take or leave, although it's definitely an enjoyment, is something that grabs ahold of you? If you don't mind answering, what does an opiod addiction feel like? Thanks. Barbara
> i think opiates/opoids would fall under the catagory of "euphoriant" rather then "anti-deppresant"
> honestly i am an opiate addict, im now in NA and iv been heroin/opiate free for about 11 months. (besides one incident with 24 viconden).
> i kinda have mixed feelings about the idea, i mean scince the early 19th century when bayer patented heroin everybody knew it was the ultimate in mood-elevation. opiates dont do as neer as much liver damage as drinking or benzos and the only real threats are addiction,tolerance,withdrawl and overdose. If your not using street smack and you know your opiates are controlled by the FDA through a pharmacy, the chance of accendental overdose is almost unheard of. most people can handle using opiates without fiending out and becomeing a serious junky. some people (like myself) became addicted as soon they tried them once. either way having a drug addiction is very REAL, its more depressing than anything iv faced sober.
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> now if you really think that opiates are the answer, you need to be prepared to have them at every moment. because once you need them and you don't have them....your a million times worse then if you never did them.
> as for a real idea, get a non-synthetic opiate in your system (codine/morphine/heroin) and go to a methadone clinic. iv been on it and i can say its the best opiate/opoid that could double as an anti-D. it lasts all day. but be warned you will be very addicted within a week, there is no way to avoid it once you start. but methadone is always available to addicts and you wont overdose when its given to you specifcly every morning.
> peace, J
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