Posted by zenclearer on November 22, 2003, at 20:05:04
In reply to Re: Most psychiatric drugs lower testosterone leve, posted by LostBoyinNC34 on November 22, 2003, at 19:58:27
1. I do not work for a company that produces or markets ssris.
2. I am disappointed to see that T-replacement therapy does not address all issues that need addressing.
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> Well good for you...SSRIs are tailor made for you.
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> > I have done searches and have come up with no clinical studies correlating antidepressants with low T levels.
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> Thats because youre stupid and you cant put two and two together. If a drug can increase estrogen levels (SSRIs do this) and also increase prolactin (SSRIs do this also), you have potential to lower testosterone in men. Which for male depression is a bad thing. I already put several medline abstacts up there FOR YOU that specifically said SSRIs increase prolactin, cause breast enlargement, etc. WHAT OTHER EVIDENCE DO YOU NEED?
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> The real problem here is that you dont want to admit this is a problem and you are biased...thats the real issue with you.
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> > Actually, I am writing some medical materials on T levels and possible correlatins with ssris, and thusly, if there is literature, I will make it known.
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> Do you think I give a shit about your so-called "opinion?" After battling severe refractory depression for six years and having my life totally ruined and finally getting diagnosed with low testosterone and getting on Androgel and getting some real relief...I dont need your "expert opinion" on this matter. I know more about it than you do anyway.
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> > There is certainly broad agreement that low T levels may result in depression, but that is symptomatic consequence, not a clearly observed relation between ssris and the potential for low T levels.
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> How do YOU know? Do you really think the SSRI companies would WANT it to be brought out that SSRIs can lower T levels in men? I dont. Just like these companies dont like to admit that SSRIs cause akathisia or that Paxil had Paxil withdrawal (it took a class action lawsuit to get the company that makes Paxil to admit this finally), its highly unlikely the SSRI companies would publicly admit that SSRIs have the potential to lower testosterone levels in men.
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> Take your "studies" and shove them. Depression treatment is heavily geared for female depression anyway. We need more dopaminergic antidepressants in this country, as those tend to decrease testosterone levels less which is better for male depression.
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