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Re: Forgot morning Ultram dose -- *never again*!!!!

Posted by temoigneur on September 14, 2003, at 1:05:37

In reply to Forgot morning Ultram dose -- *never again*!!!!, posted by Ame Sans Vie on September 12, 2003, at 9:40:19

> For anyone who doesn't know, I treat my depression and obsessive-compulsive personality disorder with Ultram, an opioid painkiller with mild serotonin/norepinephrine reuptake inhibition properties. I like to compare it to a combination of hydrocodone (Vicodin) and a good tricyclic, but without side effects.
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> Anyhoo, my usual dosing schedule is 150mg AM, 150mg noon, 100mg PM... but today I completely forgot about my first dose. That was an experience I'll *never* forget. Just imagine Paxil withdrawal symptoms (e.g. lack of coordination, malaise, brain zaps, weird and unpleasant tingly, numbing sensation throughout the body) combined with opioid withdrawal symptoms (gooseflesh, nausea, chills, akathisia, sweating, tremors). That had to have been the worst hour and a half of my life. Taking my dose relieved these symptoms 100% within 30 minutes.
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> At least I now have more reason to believe that Ultram's monoamine activity *does* contribute to its effect -- otherwise, I highly doubt I would have gotten the brain zaps, which are pretty exclusive to withdrawal from serotonergics.


Ame how are you, I talked to McPac and he told me you knew a lot about anxiety. I suffer from severe anxiety - OCD, GAD, SP, and Panic Attacks, Right now I'm taking Nardil, which works OK, I thought it was helping my OCD until I starting coming off klonopin, I take Nardil 45mg, Klonopin 4mg and zyprexa 7.5 mg, my anxiety is still bad, and I was really interested to hear about the results you were getting from ultram, and was wondering about the drug.
Do you gain tolerance to it, having opiod properties, and if so how quickly does tolerance develop in your opinion. It helps your anxiety all around, I definately have depression too, which hasn't been helped by my doctor telling me there will never be a cure for anxiety in my lifetime. The last few years of my life have been challenging, well I know people don't like to hear others complain but the anxiety has destroyed my life. Would you recommend Ultram? There was one period when I took prozac for the frist time that I felt wonderful for four months, and then the anxiety came back with a vengeance, and I've been struggling to keep my head above water ever since. Right now I'm seeing a Chinese Herbalist - I know it sounds ridiculous perhaps, but when you have all your hope taken away.

Anyway I heard you were very knowledgeable about anxiety and I'd love to hear any suggestions you have, I hope you are well,

Ben, (Btw t'es francais non? J'habite au Canada, a Vancouver actuellement, mais si je pourrais gagner la controle contre ma maladie, j'aimerais demenager a Toronto, ou bien Londres. D'accord, je vous souhaite une bonne journee et j'attend votre replie avec l'impatience.)


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