Posted by Questionmark on June 22, 2003, at 0:21:44
In reply to Why SSRI's can cause suicitiality, posted by linkadge on June 20, 2003, at 17:28:22
> In my experience I found that SSRI's could increase the feelings of wanting out.
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> I suspect the reason for this is what happened to me. I was very suicidal before taking the drug. I wanted out, but felt so guilty about wanting to commit suicide. I would have never done it for fear of judgement from God and leaving family alone.
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> However after taking celexa, that changed. While the depression itself did not really lift for a long while, the guilt left almost immediately. I had an apathy that made me not at all *afraid* of killing myself. Infact suicide all of a sudden became *no big deal* It was just shortening your life a little early.
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> In my oppinion, the drug did nothing to promote suicidal behavior, but instead made it seem all the more justified, normal, and acceptable.
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> So depressed children not taking the drugs aren't going to feel better, infact worse because they are too afraid to do anything.
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> You know you're really out of controll of your life when you don't even feel its your right to take. For me, feeling like I *could* die if I wanted to was a step towards improvement. It seemed to let me at least feel in control.
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> I know it sounds very strange but thats the way it happened with me.Great post; great points. It was the exact same for me with Paxil. The guilt and fear of leaving, so to speak, were substantially lessened. And i completely agree-- feeling that "leaving" is a legitimate and decent option is SO much easier and nicer than feeling like even thAt is a terrible option. The difference is amazing. Strange. So yeah i agree that that's probably one of if not the biggest reason(s) for SSRIs causing increased suicidality or whatever.
***Another possiblly major reason, though, is the sevERE, dark, dark depression that they give you near the beginning of treatment (for like 3 to 10 days usually, it seems like). i experienced this and everyone i talked to about it who has tried an SSRI has also experienced this. i think this is an extremely significant aspect of SSRI therapy, and crucial for people to know-- and highly overlooked in psychiatry. i wonder how many people experienced this horrible despair when starting an SSRI and then killed themselves because they didn't realize it was just the med and would not last very long. Probably more than a handful. So sad. ... And absolutely sickening that so many patients are not warned about this (if ANy). Surely the pharm. companies would have information on this right? Ah, i duno.
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