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Re: PLEASE name your favorite prosocial drug!!

Posted by Rick on June 5, 2003, at 0:01:45

In reply to PLEASE name your favorite prosocial drug!!, posted by Michael Bell on June 3, 2003, at 21:56:22

Klonopin+Provigil is a dynamite combination for me. Klonopin is extremely effective at alleviating my fear of people, allowing my true personality to break through. Provigil (at 100 mg) nicely complements my mainstay Klonopin by adding a hefty dose of outgoingness as well as pleasant, mild stimulation. These two meds definitely don't cancel each other out, as some would propose.

Unfortunately, I've had to cut back the Provigil to occasional use for two idiosyncratic reasons:
-- It can cause a dryness that exacerbates a problem I've got with excessive "gunk" in the throat.
-- It makes my heart rate go through the roof. This is asymptomatic (again, K+P makes me feel pleasantly energetic), but my heart rate already tends to be on the high side (often 90 - 100 bpm), so I don't like seeing it go to 120 or 125.

You mentioned Permax. The most awful drug experience I've ever had was with PERMAX, and that was with the recommended slow titration. That stuff is bad news!!!! Besides the horrible physical side effects, Permax really made me feel dysthmic, and I'm not prone to dysthmia or depression.

Rhodiola Rosea was mentioned at one point. One interesting aspect of good-quality Rhodiola Rosea (Arctic Root is the gold standard) is that it often tends to *lower* heart rate despite its stimulating properties. But its long-term safety hasn't been verified (even though I'd wager it is not only safe but physically beneficial), and, frankly, it didn't do much for me during a few brief trials.

Completely off topic, but as long as I've mentioned the Swedish Herbal Institute: I was skeptical at first, but their product Kan Jang (a standardized, quality andrographis paniculata), taken at double the recommended dose, is almost miraculous in treating the common cold, especially when taken at the first signs.

Rick


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