Posted by Larry Hoover on May 26, 2003, at 8:02:40
In reply to Re: Vitamin therapy! /Jumping in to the fray, posted by bookgurl99 on May 25, 2003, at 18:08:41
> Hey guys,
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> I'm recently off Zoloft (2 weeks), and am taking vitamins in an effort to treat my symptoms of fatigue, low energy, poor follow-through, poor concentration, mild to moderate depression with moderate to severe anxiety. I'm also hypothyroid, so some of the symptoms may stem from that.
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> I'm feeling somewhat better than on Zoloft, but uncomfortably stimulated and hyper. Does anyone know which of these may be giving me that effect? (It's also occurred to me that if Zoloft affected the absorption of thyroid hormone, I may simply need less now. Goin' to the dr. this week to check it out.)
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> Daily multivation, with Beta Carotene(20000 IU),C,E, Selenium (200 mcg), COQ10 (30mg), chromium, B's,including niacin (25mg), plus some other vitamins.You should add zinc, 40 mg/day. Alpha-lipoic acid enhances the activity of C and E, and is an antioxidant in its own right.
> B- 50 Complex (w/50 mgs's of the big B's, plus 200 of folic acid)
> (is this too many B's?)No. If anything, I'd double your current dosing. B's can be activating, so don't take them later in the day if insomnia might be a problem for you. Also, as mentioned in other threads, niacinamide is anxiolytic. You could consider it as a separate treatment concern, dosing up to 500 mg three times a day.
In general, the B's are non-toxic in the doses we're considering, or even ten times those doses. Vitamin B poisoning is vastly exaggerated.
> For boosting energy, adapting to stress:
> Ashwaganda -- 300 mg
> Cordyceps -- 615 mg
> Siberian Ginseng -- 450 mg
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> (got these as part of a 3 for the price of one promotion -- maybe they're just 'too' energy providing for me?)That's where I'd be looking. Some of these are uncomfortably stimulating on their own. As a combination, and with SJW, you are probably over-doing it. I'd recommend cutting these out altogether, stabilize for a couple weeks, then add them back in individually to see what they do to the mix.
> "Natural Anti-depressant"
> St. John's Wort -- 300 mg x 3 (am stopping to see if symptoms improve)I wouldn't cut this out (my opinion). Cut the adaptogens (the thre herbs above). SJW is calming, for most people.
> Omega-3 300 mg X 2
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> "Natural Anti-anxiety"
> Cal-Mag Citrate 375 mg x 3
> 1 Evening Primrose Oil (410 mg, s'posed to help w/ pms)
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> sleepytime help (to combat SSRI WD rebound insomnia).
> Valerian Root w/ small amt. of passionflower (one of those 'sleepytime' type vitamin bottles)
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> hmm . . . i wonder if it's the stimulating effect of the gingensg/ashwaganda/cordyceps. i might cut back and add one at a time so i know what's doing what.You must have read my mind. <grin>
> any ideas? i kind of jumped into this hardcore, from being tired of being tired and depressive. now i'm not 'hypomanic,' but i a 'hyper.' maybe i'm just not used to having energy?
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> boksYour body will adapt, with time. It's possible that you've corrected some metabolic deficiencies, and you're just not used to feeling that level of energy. By making so many changes all at once, it's very hard to figure out just what is doing what.
Good luck,
Lar
poster:Larry Hoover
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