Posted by McPac on April 14, 2003, at 21:14:19
In reply to Re: COCKTAIL TREATMENT FOR CHRONIC OCD » McPac, posted by freedom2001 on April 14, 2003, at 0:32:46
"I'm not sure what you mean by the 'treatment facility'. The info that I wrote was prescribed by myself. My hospital doc has less involvement in my prescription. It was through trials and sufferings that I'm currently on this regimen. So I don't understand what you meant by 'treatment facility'".
>>>>>I was referring to this info:
1) High Histamine (under-methylated)
40-70 is optimum histamine range for mental health considerations. Histamine is an important neurotransmitter which affects human behavior. This syndrome often involves seasonal variations in depression, obsessive-compulsive behavior, inhalant allergies, and frequent headaches. In severe cases involving psychosis, the dominant symptom is usually delusional thinking rather than hallucinations. They tend to speak very little and may sit motionless for extended periods. They may appear outwardly calm, but suffer from extreme internal anxiety. Most OCD patients with both obsessive thoughts and compulsive actions are in this category. Associated with under-methylation, which results in low levels of important neurotransmitters such as serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine. Treatment focuses on the use of antifolates such as calcium, methionine, SAMe, magnesium, zinc, TMG, omega-3 essential oils, B6, inositol, and A, C and E. The dose of inositol is 500 to 1000mg. Choline is anti-dopaminergic and often makes undermethylated patients worse. Also bad are DMAE, copper and folic acid. Three to six months of nutrient therapy are necessary to correct this chemical imbalance. Symptoms will return if treatment is stopped.
>>>>>The late Dr. Carl Pfeiffer pioneered much of this research. The Pfeiffer Treatment Center, named for him, is in Illinois and treats people with biochemical imbalances. I go there. Do a Google search to find info about Pfeiffer Treatment Center (interesting stuff).
"Where and how can I get magnesium glycinate? Is there a magnesium glycinate/calcium carbonate/zinc/vit D combo? I don't mind paying more".
Do a Google search. You can find mag. glycinate that way. It may be hard to find just the right combo you want though. "Source Naturals" makes a magnesium malate/calcium malate/vitamin-d/zinc combo in liquid form (which is nice because it tastes good, is very easy to take (convenient) and doesn't even cost too much. I've used it before.
"Perhaps when I was on anafranil, the army colonels keep stressing me up, therefore producing a counter-effect on me. They thought I was putting on an act to escape the conscription (I had genuine OCD problems, mind them!), and keep piling enormous stress on me".
>>>>>freedom, I don't know how ANYBODY could get better under those conditions! Stress aggravates ocd a great deal and it would be very hard to feel better in that situation.
"Today, my condition worsened in the morning due to a huge quarrel with my friend two days ago and I had been sleeping at 5am for the past 2 days. I hope I can recover soon!"
Yep, no doubt about it, stress, arguing, fighting....it all exacerbates ocd. Try practicing Skilled Relaxation Therapy (a type of Meditation)! I'm serious! If money is no object, go to the Centerpointe website (I think www.centerpointe.com) and read about their tapes/CD's. It's expensive but many swear by it. You don't have to use Centerpointe, other tapes are fine (the idea is to reach alpha/theta brainwave states, which release accumulated stress in the hypothalmus. Try this site also: www.askwaltstollmd.com (use the Archives there to read about Skilled relaxation and many other topics. I post on that site at times too.)
"Have you learnt about my plan to set up an OCD Research Centre?"
>>>>No I haven't. Sounds good! Do a Google search for the "Obsessive Compulsive Foundation (OCF)". I used to subscribe to their newsletter years ago.
"Pls tell me your current situation now too".
>>>>>>>freedom, OCD rarely bothers me anymore. It was unbelievable hell for me years ago (for many years) but I don't get many symptoms now. Meds (like Zoloft) seem to work great at keeping it away. But if I stopped taking it, no doubt it would SUCK again! I'm trying to correct some underlying imbalances w/ the help of the Pfeiffer center. I had very high histamine levels, which they are trying to lower. I also had very high copper levels, which I'm trying to lower. So I'm taking a lot of natural supplements too. The biochemical testing is great because you find out exactly what you DO need to take, what you DON'T want to take, any biochemical imbalances, etc.
Are you taking a med/med combo that is working for your ocd?
Hey, try fish oil too (if you haven't)! It may help.
"Take care and God bless!"You too dude! Keep me posted on how you are doing! Try to keep the stress level down (try the Meditation).
p.s. If you want to know detailed info about various supplements, ask Larry Hoover. He posts here and is awesome. He has a chemist background.
Take care & God Bless to you my friend!!!
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