Posted by hildi on February 10, 2003, at 0:40:11
In reply to Re: Luvox/BuSpar/Enada-- dissociative flashbacks??, posted by missinglynxx on February 9, 2003, at 12:42:03
> > > > This is actually something I noticed with my first 100mg dose of Luvox two nights ago-- I would walk from my well-light room, through the pitch black living room, to get to the bathroom on the other side of the house. When I would suddenly flip on the lights, everything took on a 'liquid', 'trailing' effect-- as if I'd dosed on dextromethorphan (Robitussin). Now I haven't been stupid enough to trip on cough syrup in years, but I thought these brief little glimpses into a time when I *was* so stupid were actually pretty cool. Many former (and current) hallucinogen users refer to these as 'free trips' :-) Oh, dextromethorphan, by the way, is the only active ingredient in Vicks 44 Cough and Robitussin Maximum Strength Cough and in doses of 200-1500mg is a dissociative anesthetic; similar to PCP and ketamine, but nothing like either.
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> > > > Anyways, I also take BuSpar (15mg tid) and Enada (5mg bid). Last night I was out with some friends and smoked a blunt, actually mainly because my stomach was so overturned from the Luvox... the stuff makes me nauseus as hell-- the visual flashbacks started immediately. I was once again fully immersed in the DXM experience. It was enjoyable, but it lasted until the high wore off. Very, very strange....
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> > > > I know dextromethorphan is somehow serotonergic, as taking it with an MAOI can produce serotonin syndrome. And I know 5-HT is indicated often in the action of hallucinogens/psychedelics. DXM, btw, also happens to be the reverse isomer of levomorphan, a high-potency opioid.
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> > > > Anyone with any experience/insight here? Anyone experience anything like this with Celexa, Lexapro, Paxil, Prozac, Effexor, Zoloft...?
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> > > > --Michael
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> > > SORRY to butt in Michael .... But why not use Licorice Root or Ginger Root for the nausea and lack of appetite.. or perhaps Compazine would be stronger.. YOU need to eat great food to recover,, buddy,, so Appetite and exercise are KEY aspects to this depression thing
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> > > I would Avoid POT like the Plague!
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> > I have to agree. I also am going to butte in here. I have been spending too much time and money trying to get my brain to feel normal again- I wouldn't f**k it up more by smoking pot. I smoked pot (and drank and did other drugs) for way too many years and I think it may have caused my depression/anxiey, or at least added to my screwed-up brain chemistry.
> > Use alternative methods for your nausea, as stated above.
> > I did have a flashback experience while taking effexer. I saw trails, and moving sidewalks, etc. I felt like I was reliving an old acid trip. I didn't like it and stopped the effexor immediately.
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> Thats beautifully written Hildi. Its almost like we have to become "health nuts" haha.
> I agree with you wholeheartedly about the money aspect. WE spend easily thousands of Dollars every few months,,, (this is pre insurance) Can you imagine not having insurance. They would throw you to the wolves......
> Its almost like mental illness is just as expensive as some Cancer treatments.
> What are you taking thats working? Hildi. Good luck and keep in touch!I don't have insurance! That's part of the frustration, too! I spend a lot of time trying to figure out what's going to be best for me because money is a real issue and medication is so expensive. I'm trying to support myself and put myself through college, all the while trying to find a med formula that works for me. I've been through this 'game' for a while and I now know that my body is sensitive, and these 'standard variety' meds I've been getting is not what my body needs. Unfortunately, my doctor hands out the same old stuff and thinks everyone should respond- is he brainwashed (or paid?) by these drug companies?
I'm trying different things now. I've also made an appointment with a new dr., maybe he will be willing to work with me and not put off by my suggestions and input. We'll see.
It irks me that I am working so hard to get my brain to feel 'ok', and I read about those who are still smoking pot and wonder why they feel so strange. ALL drugs interact, and smoking pot will affect all the other meds he takes-not to mention making him act stupid. Face it- people act dumb when they're stoned! I am not anti pot smoking, and I definately support medical marijuana, but I don't think it's cool to brag about getting high, either. Too much getting high really affected my brain chemistry-I truly believe that. I know I've always been different, but I have no doubt that all my excessive drinking and drug use played in a major part in where I am today because it made my messed up brain even more so. So I say: quit the pot unless you have cancer or something, and really need it for the pain.
Hildi
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