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Re: thanks Re: Klonopin as a dumb drug » Franz

Posted by viridis on October 30, 2002, at 5:09:17

In reply to Re: thanks Re: Klonopin as a dumb drug » viridis, posted by Franz on October 29, 2002, at 17:04:52

Hi Franz,

Like Hiba, my experience is that Klonopin is excellent for reducing ruminating thoughts without cognitive dulling or other side effects. Rumination is a form of obsessiveness, although there's also "true" obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), in which people do things like wash their hands every few minutes, check to see if a door is locked 50 times, etc. I know that for OCD, high doses of the SSRI Luvox (fluvoxamine) are sometimes used. Effexor, which you mentioned (it affects both serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake) might be used for it too, but I'm not sure about that. In any case, it doesn't sound like you're talking about OCD, although this may be what your therapist is thinking of.

My advice would be to see an experienced psychiatrist or psychopharmacologist. Of course, a lot of psychiatrists don't like benzos either, and you might be someone who could benefit from certain ADs (although most of these can cause medical dependency, like benzos and many non-psychiatric meds). You really need expert advice and treatment, and if the first psychiatrist's approach doesn't work, you may have to try others. Benzos like Klonopin are great for some of us, and your positive reaction to Xanax (alprazolam) suggests that you may be in that category -- this is something to discuss with someone who's qualified to diagnose mental illness and prescribe psychiatric medications. My experience is that therapists and GPs/family doctors often don't have a clue about these things, so I would go to a psychiatrist if at all possible.

Your therapist's "knee-jerk" negative reaction to benzos is common, and I'm guessing from what you've said that he isn't really familiar with the medication side of treating mental disorders. One thing, though -- I get the impression you might be from outside the U.S. (in part, because you mentioned bromazepam, which I don't think is commonly used here). In some countries such as Canada, Klonopin is marketed as "Rivotril" (and it probably has other names too). The generic name for it is clonazepam. If you are from another country, this might also explain the therapist's lack of recognition of "Klonopin".

In any case -- please try to see a psychiatrist!

Good luck!

Viridis


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