Posted by utopizen on October 25, 2002, at 13:13:42
In reply to Re: MDMA HOW YOU THINK I GOT THIS WAY!!!!!!!!, posted by djmmm on October 25, 2002, at 13:01:44
Shulgrin patented MDMA? I forgot about this one... do you know what year?
Anyway, "neurotoxicity" has a long way to go as a science. A lot of it relies on animal models. In monkeys, methamphetamine shows black areas of killed off white matter at small doses. Geez, let's let the FDA know that this must mean methamphetamine is neurotoxic as therapeutic levels!
Well, luckily we are all wise enough to know this means that meth is neurotoxic in chimps, and don't jump to any conclusions. So unless studies conclusively point to human markers that show neurotoxicity, let's not read too much in to these.
It's interesting you brough up phen. "Phen-phen" actually showed great safety results in animal testing. Only after human trials after it hit the market did we learn of its hyptensive effects. Another reason not to bet your life on animal studies.
People joke about being treated like a guinea pig. But how great is it to risk your life on drugs made by companies that can't tell the anatomical differences between a guinea pig and a human? The two don't always extrapolate out. Heck, reading this point will let anyone realize it's hard enough just to extrapolate from one HUMAN to another human! As Dr. Greek said in Sacred Cows, Golden Geese: The Human Cost of Animal Experiments, multiply these problems by a thousand when you use animal tests.
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