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Re: To...Addiction vs. Medical dependence » Squiggles

Posted by alan on August 19, 2002, at 20:13:04

In reply to Re: To...Addiction vs. Medical dependence » alan, posted by Squiggles on August 19, 2002, at 16:54:32


>
> I still need some time to answer the question
> on dependence and addiction (which btw i do not
> find anything but a linquistic squabble). But
> anyway, i do agree that the heavy narcotics, such
> as heroin, cocaine, should not be compared with
> such zeal by such groups as the Benzo group.
>
> Ah, the benzo group - yes it has left its mark on
> me. After working so closely together with
> Ray Nimmo who has just won a $40,000 lawsuit in the
> U.K. for benzo brain damage (not bad);
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Then your "squabble" is with the medical profession itself, not with mere words...that is unless one has a gripe or vendetta with the profession in general.

It is what the medical profession uses to distinguish legitimate medications from illicit or improper medication. Otherwise, if no distinction were made, why not prescribe inappropriate CNS depressants for anxiety disorders like seconal, alcohol, etc? Because even though those two have a dependence and withdrawl period, they have health ramifications that are, down the road, dilitorious. They are not appropriate medicines. They are not appropriately equated with bzds just because bzds initially build tolerance and have a withdrawl period.

If those that equate bzds with heroin and cocaine (benzo.org) aknowledged the distinction, the entire case that they make would evaporate.
To blur the distinction IS their cornerstone. You can count on that to be incorporated in any inquiry one would make on the subject.

That is, bzd's are bad medications to take short or long term because they have a tolerance and withdrawl phenomenon for the overall population
- irrespective that they are used for legitimate medical conditions - and successfully for the overall population *without* spiraling dosages and withdrawls like heroin.

To trash an entire classification of medicine by deliberately ignoring these distinctions is what the bzd.org does so well.

PS. The 40,000 pounds lawsuit was awarded to a patient for physician incompentency for having misprescribed. It is not, as Ray and his friends would like it to seem to portray it, an indictment of bzds.

As a matter of fact, the case is a fine example illustrating a physician NOT knowing the difference between "addiction" and medical dependence.

I'm sure that Ray will have lots to say on the subject. There seem to be one or two of this group's followers on every med bboard one goes to. Whether they are indeed different posters is another matter.


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