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Re: Interesting article » Ritch

Posted by SLS on August 10, 2002, at 9:37:13

In reply to Re: Interesting article » Anyuser, posted by Ritch on August 7, 2002, at 9:39:50

Hi Mitch.

How have you been doing?

> It would be nice if more pharm. companies would be interested in attempting to market meds that are already available in other countries that could be helpful here. I am thinking of moclobemide for one (why doesn't Roche try to get FDA approval here?).

First of all, it is my impression that moclobemide is really not a terribly effective drug - either for depression or social-phobia. Of course, some people respond well to it, but the non-selective irreversible MAOIs generally demonstrate superior efficacy. It is certainly worth a try, though. You never know, right?

- Don't give up on moclobemide until you reach 1200mg.
- Do not eat any more than 50mg of tyramine at any one meal.

I would be very interested to know what drugs you would combine with moclobemide. Zyprexa would be interesting.

I tried moclobemide in December, 1996. I reacted very, very badly to it. It exacerbated my depression to a degree worse than I have ever experienced. I was curled up in a fetal position on the couch for days, wimpering in pain. No thoughts. Just mental pain.

Roche conducted trials of moclobemide in the US for the indication of social-phobia. I guess they figured they had a better chance of getting the FDA to approve a drug for an indication for which few drugs had yet been approved. The results were poor. I spoke to the head of the US moclobemide project just before it was discontinued. He told me that it was dead and that the trials had been terminated. I doubt they will revisit it.

> Also, the active metabolite of nortriptyline (I think E-10 OH-nortriptyline),

Isn't the parent compound active? What are the differences between them? What other drugs downregulate 5-HT receptors? In what ways does this help with depression? Is it simply an observed association or is there a hypothesis as to how it contributes to producing a remission?

Thanks.

> Why can't that be developed? Marketing active metabolits of older drugs is becoming more common (fexofenadine and cetirizine, ie.).

For every 1 drug brought to market, 100 are synthesized, researched, and discarded for various reasons, including projected profitability. It costs 800 million dollars and 12 years to get a drug approved by the FDA. I imagine there are a few miracle drugs that have ended up in landfills.


- Scott

 

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