Posted by omega man on June 5, 2002, at 12:24:12
In reply to Re: Liberal thinking ? (very long post), posted by SassyMom33 on June 4, 2002, at 3:40:44
I can see from you reply we could have a whole discussion about the usefullness of "altered states"...altering your mental state gives you another view from which to see things...and having a drawer full of stuff that give me varieties of ways to see and feel things is very usefull indeed...
to answer your points raised my initial information about ectasy was from videotapes of a subject given ectasy in a lab/psychiatry environment...where his first words when MDMA hit his head were "I feel like music, I feel like I need to dance"...
for heroin...I never use a needle so i'm not taking the all or nothing risk you indicated...I don't go for that sort of risk..nearly all my life threatining situations were due to the untested combos people try on themselves who post to psycho-babble..but i'm not critizing that..its great all that stuff is availible...i just find it more frightening than the things I do to myself..
aside from heroin and cocaine which are useless to most peoples everyday lives I just don't see legal/non legal as being a good indicator of whats going to be helpfull and what is'nt....cigarettes are a very quick way to destroy yourslf yet we let that happen...
The law seem to be more of a warning as to whats happened within certain groups of people...I don't think I ever said to legalize the drugs I had mentioned..I was making a wider point that we don't market and license drugs for recreational use anymore...we have done and we know what those are....but like I say MDMA helped me unclog stuff from my brain and once the process is over it was very much like a classic psychiatry success except I did'nt need three months probing.....just one session....
LSD was liberating too...
some of the deeper mental processes you can release can be so very helpfull...in that i'm taking about religous experiences and I hope you realize how good that can be for everybody....
As for "drug induced realities" what do you call the state of constant multiple prescription most people here live through ?It does not matter if a reality is drug induced..if its usefull to that persons health or results in people getting ideas or states of being that hopefully turn out to be fruitfull or productive...
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