Posted by johnj on April 26, 2002, at 18:47:04
In reply to Re: Colin, I know how you feelJohn J., posted by colin wallace on April 26, 2002, at 17:19:21
that my case is not totally unique! Although I would not wish depression on any other human being. My current depressive state is not too bad, but that is at a price of being not so sharp and on top of things as I like to be. I probably told you this but I currently take 50 mg of nortryptline, 600 mg of lithobid(AD booster, or so I have been told), tranxene(a benzo) 7.5 mg (low dose) for anxiety, and the recently 15 mg of remeron which was to help me wean off the TCA. I think the lithobid kind of stablizes things. If I stopped working out totally I would most likely settle down and feel better. But, I do have a problem when I am not allowed to help myself. I have always wondered if the AD for me helps a point and then hinders or actually makes the depression worst. My family doctor said he would like to get me off the tranxene since it can cause depression, but my pdoc never mentioned that as a goal. I did sucessfully wean off a morning dose of 7.5 mg because I would just sit there and yawn like a horse. I have not had any panic attacks after starting the tranxene and it is kind of scary thinking I might invite them back by dropping the tranxene.
I am not near as bad as I first was and at that time I, like you, was suicidal, and could barely speak a meaningful phrase. It felt as if my fight or flight mechanism was switched on and wouldn't turn off. Thinking about how I felt at that time is scary. I was really whacked out and thought I was some horrible person. It took 3 months of physical tests over in Japan before I came back to the US and went to a pdoc. I didn't even know what I had experienced was at all common.
I can see that the remeron has made me less prone to snap at people, but dulled parts of me I don't like to be dulled. They say remeron doesn't have any sexual side effects, but it did for me. I have always had a short fuse but the depression made me very irritable at times.
I lifted weights today and hope that doesn't set me back. If I could keep the way I feel right now at this very moment I would be very pleased. But, it is late afternoon and I seem to feel better after a sort of crash after lunch. I wonder if this means less remeron is better?The sam-e sounds like something that I really need to get me going in the morning. I bought some from a company off the net I have used named Swanson's and on the bottle it said it is from Europe. It was pretty cheap so I have a few doubts on it's quality. It was something like 9 US dollars for 30, 200mg tablets.
You mentioned the amitryptline helps you sleep. Is it pretty sedating? The TCA;s, although with more side effects seem to have been tried and tested that is why the new meds, even with less side effects, scare me a little. I may even ask my pdoc about a different TCA that is not related to nortryptline and see what he thinks. I know the effect of it on excercise is not in my head, now I just have to convince him of that! That is why I felt much better after reading someone else has had that type of reaction. This has probably been posted before, but I wonder if anybody else has had excercise problems with their meds? Colin, thanks for all the information I appreciate it. Take care. Johnj
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