Posted by Ritch on January 31, 2002, at 9:55:19
In reply to Re: Stimulants for Bipolar Disorder? » Ritch, posted by MB on January 31, 2002, at 2:37:02
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> > Hi, I have got mixed ADHD and bipolarII and never got *high* from amphetamines (tried coke once or twice-not very impressed). They can make me really anxious though. When I tried low-dose Adderall I got very *quiet*. People commented on it at work--"you're very quiet, what's up?". Normally, I am more chatty. I would just go ahead and try it like your pdoc wants and see what happens. Just make sure the dose is LOW.
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> Interesting. Meth (in the old days) never got me "high" unless i took something else with it. cocaine calmed me right down...like it almost zoned me out like a Thorazine zone-out. Lately, I've noticed that too much Adderall makes me *anxious* but not really "high". Well, let me take that back...once, i did get a little euphoric (probably a manic switch) and when the stuff wore off, the dysphoria was worse than anything I've ever felt. Note to self: what comes up (mania) must come down (horrible dysphoric, agitated depression).
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> ps. By the way, I don't think I was always bipolar. Kindling effect? Too many med changes changing my brain?Hi, I can recall depressive episodes all the way back to when I was about seven or eight years old. Interestingly, they also were at certain times of the year (seasonal). I can recall the attentional problems back to six or seven (2nd grade)-got a report card and had A's and B's for the subjects but a "U" (unsatisfactory) for "listening" and "following directions"! My parents were livid about it (that's why I remember). The hypomanias go back only as far as Jr. High school (no pun intended!-).
The kindling thing with BP-I seems to be viable to me. With BP-II I wonder if it would really be *progressive* without medications. However, that slideshow about neuroprotection and lithium/Depakote makes me wonder. The thing I find kind of scary was the slide that seemed to intimate that antidepressants cause nerve cell death (for just bipolars??). I couldn't hear the thing due to bandwidth-just looked at the slides. Do you or anyone know what he said about that particular thing?
Just curious,
Mitch
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