Posted by JGalt on January 5, 2002, at 0:19:43
In reply to Dexedrine- the perfect weight loss drug?, posted by 3 Beer Effect on January 4, 2002, at 14:53:20
Some dexedrine abusers I've known wouldn't get out of bed to do much more than eat every once in a while for well over a week. They weren't back to at all productive until about a month. That's pretty hard to go through, a lot of people will commit suicide during that.
Amphetamines used to be prescribed all day long for weight loss but that is frowned upon now, many people get a tolerance to that just as much as they do the motivational effects. The help with concentration is the one thing that doesn't seem to go away.
One final problem with your post, it is impossible, I repeat, impossible for anyone except the morbidly obese or relatively fat people using high levels of 2,4 dinitrophenol to loose a lb of fat a day. You can loose several lbs of water easily, you can keep a lower amount of food in your system by taking laxatives (I lost 8lbs in 12 hrs doing this before a powerlifting competition, not worth it), but that is not permanent weight loss by any means. Here's why you can't: a lb of fat contains 3500 calories. I'm an active guy, I'm around 180lbs, and the number of calories I need to maintain my bodyweight is roughly 2500 per day. Unless you're doing some endurance running daily, chances are, you're never going to get to 20x your bodyweight in calories needed per day. The dexedrine's impact on your metabolism is unsubstantial after a week or so, so the only way you could loose a pound of fat a day would be to not eat at all (this is if you are about my weight and have some incredible metabolism and are very active), in which case your body would severly intervene, begin metabolising muscle like crazy, and make you very very lethargic and unmotivated. Thus, if you were loosing a lb a day, it was mostly water weight, less food intake causing a lower food balance in your body, perhaps liver glycogen stores being used up (I believe that is roughly 3-5 lbs right there), along with some fat and muscle...not weight you're going to keep off for long, certainly not a healthy plan for life.
I do agree completely that ephedrine+caffeine's rapid results on weight loss are primarily through the above mechanisms, ephedrine's actual metabolism increasing effects are something like 2-3% increase...and it reduces appetite. Start popping thyroid pills all day long (not healthy either), you'll probably be up around 15-20% elevation. Back in the 20's (no I'm not that old), when DNP was legal, pop a couple of those per day and start living outside in the winter somewhere snowy, and you can have 70% elevation...that's about the only way you can loose a lb of real fat a day (while eating the same amount and not loosing much if any muscle), which is pretty much all that counts if you're going for increasing your health by loosing weight.
JGalt
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