Posted by v on September 17, 2001, at 7:22:29
In reply to Re: in case of an accident... LONG...LONG » v, posted by Elizabeth on September 13, 2001, at 10:58:34
good morning elizabeth... i know it's taken me some time to finish responding, but for what it's worth, here goes.. :)
> i think the ritalin may be responsible but i'm not sure...
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> Hmm. Why do you think that?i's the only thing that seems to make sense is my opiad tolerance increased when i added ritalin to my meds... now painkillers don't really do a good job for me on the pain, so much as allowing me to just not mind it as much... perhaps it's the dopamine? i really don't know much about this stuff... but i have a VERY low threshold for pain, probably due to the pain in my past, the traumas and the depression itself
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> > well, i'm already addicted to half the stuff i take - can't just stop the effexor or the klonopin now can i... so what's the difference?
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> Uh-uh. That's not addiction. The definition of addiction -- "substance dependence," is the official name for it -- can be found on many websites. Here's one: http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/subdep.htmnow this one's been bothering me since you wrote it because that is the "therapeutic" definition...what they are really saying is addiction is substance abuse and i stress the word abuse since in the explanation for substance dependence they were talking about abuse... not dependence
the dictionary definiton of addiction is: compulsive physiological need for a habit forming drug
i'd say anything that causes withdrawal symptoms when removed fits the definition... i'm addicted to effexor & klonopin in that my body requires that i maintain the dosages... but i don't need to continually increase that dose , nor am i seeking out more from other sources.... nonetheless, i am addicted.
> > these medications were made to be used because they work
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> You'd *think* that, wouldn't you?!their "definition" or rather their distortion of the definition is self-serving and is the very reason it is so hard for people to often get the drugs they need... substance use and substance abuse are such different things.
> > i do see a psychiatrist for my meds... he's the one who sees ADD stamped on my forehead for some reason.
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> IMO, some doctors have pet diagnoses that they see in everybody they encounter.this is a bit of a problem for me particularly as my personality is so fragmented, he right is some ways but not in all... my add actually seems worse lately
> A friend of mine tells me that when he asked to try adding stimulants to his Xanax, he was told that "stimulants and benzodiazepines are only seen together in abuse."what can i say to that, it's so idiotic... makes me angry to even hear it
> Hey, congratulations. I don't know why they don't try to market Wellbutrin as a diet pill.
(Maybe it's because diet pills are assumed to have "abuse potential.")they already use it for quitting nicotine but i don't know if it would really work as a diet pill, because although it does help my impulse control, i must make a concerted effort to use it that way - it might help for compulsive overeaters but only if they also sought help for the need to compulsively overeat.. and they would probably also benefit from an ad to help their seratonin levels so you end up back with just us "admitted nut cases" - the magic pill it ain't... :)
well, enough babbling for now... as always i hope you are well
BTW, is there anything that can be done to help with the short term memory loss, word finding difficulty - even spelling! and general stupidity that seems to accompany these drugs? it frustrates the hell out me...
blessings,
v
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