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A bit more information on the Big D.... » kazoo

Posted by drexxie on July 28, 2001, at 2:06:48

In reply to About the big D » Zo, posted by kazoo on July 28, 2001, at 0:55:00

> Zo: do you know if BIPHETAMINE is still prescribed?
>
> Desoxyn, by the way, goes for 10 bucks a pop (15mg "Gradumet") on the streets of Manhattan.
>
> It's easier to get heroin than this drug (third party information/observation, not my own ... I know absolutely nothing about anything and, quite possibly, everything).
>
> (a gleeful) kazoo (applying standard disclaimer)


Thanks Kazoo for the info. I know what you mean about the prices of Rx's and their street values.
Approximately 3-5 weeks ago, the Houston Chronicle ran an article pertaining solely to such a topic.
It listed the average street value and listed the most sought after drugs (per the 'street').
It was an interesting, albeit 'an eye opening/spooky' kind of 'read'

I found the following info on the 'big D' (no longer Dallas, eh? [grin])
Methamphetamine for ADHD


Please apply any and all applicable disclaimers,
Drexxie


Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:44:07 -0500
From: talmadge@onramp.net (John M. Talmadge, M.D.)
Subject: Methamphetamine for ADHD

Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder in Adults (Wender):

The amphetamines and methyphenidate appear to be equally effective... The most useful
amphetamines are d-amphetamine and methamphetamine... Known as "meth crystals,"
methamphetamine achieved notoriety during the 1960s in the Haight-Ashbury district of
San Francisco as the preferred amphetamine for "highs."

Dr. Kuttner was correct in saying that Wender offers only these general comments (pp 166-168) in a
300 page text.

Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder: A Handbook for Diagnosis and Treatment (Barkley):

Much discussion of medication, but no mention of methamphetamine in this 750 page magnum opus
by one of the leaders in the field, a Ph.D. professor of psychiatry and neurology.

Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 07:33:39 -0700
From: "C. Donald Williams" < cdonald@WOLFE.net >
Subject: Methamphetamine for ADHD

Paul Wender authored an editorial in the Journal of Child and Adolescent Psychopharmacology (I believe
spring, 1994), "Methamphetamine and Child Psychiatry". My recollection is that he traced the development
of prejudice against methamphetamine (and for methylphenidate) and then offered the opinion that there
was little rational basis for such a preference.

He incorrectly stated that Desoxyn has a price advantage; in fact, it is approximately 3 times as expensive
as Dexedrine. One advantage of the Desoxyn formulation ("Gradumets") is that the medication is apparently
embedded in a resin vehicle out of which it is leached gradually.

Following very extensive prepartory consultation with the Board of Pharmacy in my state, I began (as a child
psychiatrist) to use Desoxyn in ADHD patients, both adult and child. Out of an N of 20, 14 who did less well
on other agents did quite well on Desoxyn. They have all commented about the lack of rebound phenomena
and longer duration of action. For whatever reason, another common observation is that they experience
less irritability and dysphoria with Desoxyn. Effective dosages, in mg, appear to be about 10-20% >
Dexedrine. In other words, if a Dexedrine 20 mg Spansule is effective, a Desoxyn 25 mg Gradumet will be
required. I have also had to supplement the am dosage with a Dexedrine 5 mg Tablet in some extreme
cases.

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