Posted by AMenz on June 3, 2001, at 14:02:16
In reply to It's your cavalier attitude !, posted by ItsJustMe on March 31, 2001, at 16:34:25
YOu are right that there are diffent degrees of illness. Obviously some people are in the position to quit medications and continue to function. I would join their ranks if I could. I would like to be free of side effects, med trials etc.
However other groups require medication to function and feel reasonably well. Those who are treatment resistant, or simply have not hit upon the right combination are indeed going through a trial in life that it takes every ounce of courage to go through.
I thought you expressed yourself strongly but not uncivilly in your previous post. Obviously sometimes that might be a problem. But I do not think your post lacked courtesy. You probably feel some anger because this is a personal issue. I can understand that.
There are obviously no right or wrongs in this issue. We are comparing apples and pears here. What applies to the functionally depressed does not apply to the very ill. These may even be simply the same people during different times in their lifes.
> It's your cavalier attitude toward meds and those that take them that causes me to call your depression mild.
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> It sounds to me that that was exactly what *YOU* were doing. You were simply looking for a way to be "happy all the time." The opposite of "happy all the time" is NOT depression.
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> I for one find your attitude toward meds and those that rely heavily on them to KEEP THEMSELVES ALIVE (not merely happy-go-lucky) incredibly offensive, and I don't hesitate to say so.
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> > I have suffered from depression most of my life. It's a condition that has plauged me on and off for 25-30 years. I finally decided to try anti-depressants about two years ago...people had urged me to try them for years, but I resisted. First, I tried Zoloft. At first, my depression was lifted and it was great. But after a few months, it stopped working. In the meantime, I started gaining weight and had that emotionally numb feeling that is a common side effect of SSRI'S. I felt flat and emotionless most of the time. After about a year, I asked my DR. to let me try something else. He put me on Effexor 150 mgs. I was concerned about gaining more weight, and was told it was unlikely. Wrong. I gained even more weight on Effexor, and the numbness continued. Effexor didn't work that great for me. After 5 months of Effexor, I decided to stop. I thought about trying another anti-depressant, but first I I had to get through Effexor withdrawal. That was very hard. Nightmarish. I think that Effexor will eventually be removed from the market, after the class action lawsuits get started.
> > It has been almost two months since I stopped taking Effexor. The withdrawal effects bothered me for about 2-3 weeks. Since I stopped taking Effexor, I am no longer having nightmares and disturbing dreams. I have real emotions again! I love being able to feel emotional again...even though it has the down side of feeling sadness and other unpleasant emotions more...but I feel human again, instead of like a lifeless zombie. I think that many of us are relying on anti-depressants too much, to rescue us from that somtimes painful condition called humanity. If a person has debilitating depression or anxiety, and they find it hard to function in life because of it, then, by all means, use medication to help you function.
> > I have decided that for me, anti-depressants are not the answer. I do not enjoy being overweight, (I am an avid excerciser) or emotionally numb, or grinding my jaws, or having disturbing dreams, or going through horrific withdrawal effects. I think from now on, I'll take my chances, and just live my life medicine free. I'll deal with the sad times, and enjoy the happy times. I now can enjoy crying at a movie (something I never did while medicated) and just accept the ups and downs of life. For me, SSRI'S had the unfortunate effect of taking the joy along with the sadness. It's not worth it to me. This is the best decision for me....but it may not be the best one for everybody. Each person has to decide what is best for him/herself. I wish everyone here the best that life has to offer. God Bless.
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