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Re: Pamela...Marilyn and everyone else........ » Leo

Posted by Anxious-Man on April 19, 2001, at 22:24:22

In reply to Pamela...Marilyn and everyone else........, posted by Leo on April 19, 2001, at 20:09:53

Genau! That's German for 'exactly'. I work for a bio-pharm corp. I know how they operate. You're exactly right! Profit is the motive, maybe not with the scientists and developers, but certainly with the marketing reps. Their stock is the THE THING. I commend you on your observations. I mean, we read the PDR and all the listed side-effects...Those are printed for LEGAL reasons. How can a drug cause both hair growth and hair loss at once? Stupid! But, they print this stuff to cover their asses. If it's printed and you take the med, you can't sue them. PERIOD. That's the point. YOU WERE INFORMED.
I've had trouble with my Dr. too...At least as far as his suggestions of drugs that I should or shouldn't take. And on what is his knowledge based? The pharm reps! The Dr. has never taken these drugs, has never gone through the side-effects, has never gone through withdrawal.
So, just be aware of this. Sure, they spent a lot of time in school. But what about our lives?

heart-Anxious-Man

> Hello Pamela,
>
> The Doctors out there are responding predominantly to what the drug company reps are telling them. The reps are motivated by money, so their feedback to the doctor is going to be "slanted" as are some of the posts I've been reading. They are certainly not going to give the doctors all the facts concerning effexor. A drug company reps facts, when a drug starts presenting a problem, tend to become rationalizations. That in itself is a problem that is huge in the drug company industry. The doctors usually get the facts from their patients. Hence, the suggestion concerning taking a hand full of these posts and presenting them to the doctor. A good doctor will take a hard look when confronted with a multitude of symptoms and side effects in patients that all share commonalities. And then he has the pleasure of watching the drug rep back peddle when presented with the facts. As far as dosages go, I think effexor is an extremely volatile drug in any dosage. People who have been on it for any length of time need to discontinue it under the watchful eye of a good doctor. There are physical things that happen to the body during the withdrawal process that are in fact dangerous and could be life threatening. There are studies that confirm this. There is no established weaning process from the drug. I believe it was rushed to market for profit sake. And I go back to the fact the brain is uncharted territory. Introducing drugs that attempt to alter "state of mind" touted as offering relief for depression is some ones best guess. I'm not anti-drug but I am anti-carelessness. I have no doubt that depression and anxiety are the by-products of a serious chemical imbalance in the brain. Researchers haven't evened scratched the tip of the iceberg on this yet. Controlling the imbalance is the problem. The drug company’s answer is to throw it out there and see what happens. I don't dispute the fact that effexor is good for some but these people are in a MINORITY. And a small one at that. That's until they try to get off of it and then they join the majority. I also don't believe that these drug companies create drugs with the intent of hurting people. What I have a problem with is when they bury their heads in the sand or put blinders on when it comes to addressing the "aftermath" of their creations. Then they are hurting people. The doctors can't be blamed but they can be educated by their patients, not by the drug company reps.
>
> I've also looked at Marilyns posts...GOOD JOB. No one can dispute the facts!!!! Don't let up. Don't be to surprised when you see a segment on one of televisions renowned evening news magazines concerning effexor. I know, that at this time, there is some real heavy investigating going on.
>
> Also, keep tabs on your overall health. This will be important in the future.
>
> This post should bring them out of the woodwork.
> Can't wait to see the responses to this one.
>
> Regards,
> Leo


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