Posted by Matty on September 3, 2000, at 9:38:28
In reply to Re: social phobia - nardil, pagoclone, pregabalin » Matty, posted by ChrisB on September 2, 2000, at 13:43:19
Thanks everyone for the response,
In reply to your points and questions - I asked my psychiatrist about clonazepam, he said that he was not prepared to use a benzo unless it was a last resort (and to him that is not yet). Pagoclone is a new allegedly safer altenative to the benzo's, pregabalin is a newer version of neurontin (my docs laughed when I asked about neurontin saying that it is an anticonvulsant and they see of no reason why it should benefit anxiety), most stuff on the net about it is American and it is little used over here. Pregabalin however shows promise for anxiety and is probably set to be approved for anxiety disorders (when though, I have no idea). Gamalate and picamilone are benzo alternatives I have only read about in on-line pharmacy stores. I have had a hell of a lot of weight gain with nardil, but apart from that no other side effects. I even eat cheese and drink beer, I see my doc on wedsnesday he will probably suggest giving nardil a bit longer. We do have parnate over here and that may be my next choice should he agree. I would also like to try deprenyl but am worried about combining two differant MAOI's, has anyone done this? I think I may try adrafinil. Other meds I have tried (all pretty much with no success) are prozac, celexa, effexor, clomipramine, moclobemide, paxil, anetenol and buspar ( I am currently taking 60mg nardil and 10mg pindolol) As for my symptoms I tend to get very anxious about the thought of going out and meeting people, sometimes to the point of full panic attack. I also get panic attacks when I have being thinking about an 'embarassing' situation without realising it has even been on my mind. In social situations I hate being in crowds, I find it difficult to talk in crowds for fear of people 'listening in'. When placed in a social situation it is the fear of being mocked that weighs most heavily on my mind. I also get very panicy when spoken to and I find it difficult to concentrate on what people are saying to me thus am unable to reply. I often sweat, blush and stutter when I am finding a conversation particularaly stressful. Because of this nervousness and inability to concentrate I often come accross as aloof, clumsy and a bit of an idiot, but I know this not to be true. I too tend to be more avoidant and just want to join in more and come across more confident rather than actually being highly 'jittery' and anxious, perhaps dopaminergics are for me, or perhaps I do need a drug that boosts GABA activity. Again sorry about the essay but any further correspondance would be much appreciated. If anyone wishes they can also send info to me at supaleeds@hotmail.com> I have exactly the same problem when not on a med thats working - when people are showing me how to
> do something in a new job for example, or even
> just talking in a social situation,
> info. just goes in one ear and out the other! I
> hear the words but dont get the true meaning.
> I agree with AndrewB in that you should avoid GHB, Ive heard some nasty things about it.
> Pagoclone or Pagodone is still in clinical trials as far as I know: look up the "New Medicines In Development Database".
> If I were you Id give Nardil the flick - eight
> weeks is definitely long enough to give a med.
> to work. Dont they have Parnate over there? This
> med. took away my social phobia COMPLETELY, but it
> does have a fair few side fx. I tried Nardil and
> found it a much weaker version of Parnate. I know
> what its like to suffer this condition and you
> dont need to waste any more time on a med thats
> not working. Its much better to try Parnate first
> rather than go to all the trouble of ordering from o/s for a med that may or may not work (Ive
> tried this avenue as well).
> Parnate works incredibly for social phobia in me
> - it may for you too - I dont know why Nardil gets
> more press.
>
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