Posted by Brenda on April 13, 2000, at 18:25:08
In reply to Re: Guns and the mentally ill: disturbing posts, posted by boB on April 13, 2000, at 18:03:49
> At least LostboyinNC considers himself part of a group (what WE are all fighting for), and perhaps recognizes he has a problem, if he includes himself in the group of mentally ill whose rights need to be protected.
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> I wonder if he has reviewed a written family lineage that would tell him whether, anytime in the last 2000 years, his own family sprung some semetic roots. I would suggest he might have grow up in a situation where he was repeatedly traumatized and taught that strength is the equivilant of violence and rage. It can be very difficult to find a more intelligent direction when your best role models were out of control much of the time, and pretended their own frustrated acts of abuse were instead mature parenting.
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> I am just guessing, but most people I know who practice verbal violence learned it somewhere.
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> Insults aside, he does use some reasonably complex sentence structure, and has the courage to challenge what he sees as weakness in the people around him. Maybe he will learn someday how to lend strength to his social circle instead of tearing them down. The anti-semitism is simply ill-informed lashing out, but some of his argument that people need to do something physical, and that some supposedly mental illnesses are just a bit too much self-absorbed complaining, well, he is not the only one who feels that way. I suspect he is suffering inside.
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> I suggest he try spending some time with flowers - not picking, but down on his hands and kneee, touching the cool earth that he is made of and inhaling the subtle aroma of blossoms on the stem, contemplating how they blossom and yearn for life, and how they interact with bees and other species to maintain themselves, often sacrificing their own breif life to keep their own kind strong. These are the ways of nature, and if we don't practice them wisely, they can easily spin out of control.
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> Well there is an alternative. He could just boil over with rage, and we could all ignore him and treat him like a pariah, never caring what caused his lashing out and his anger. For an idea of where that leads, check this out:
> http://www.amyboyer.org/
> http://www.amyboyer.org/mind.htmThanks for mentioning the flower smelling therapy. I grow roses, lots of roses, and it's the one tried and true thing to lift my depression a bit. I call it "putting my nose in the rose" literally. Digging is also very therapeutic for excercise and getting back to basics. BTW NCboy's name is Eric. Aside from some of his racist comments - he appears to be pretty intelligent.
Also, my husband and I have numerous weapons of all different types and calibers. When I have severe breakthrough depression he locks them all up. Otherwise, we used to shoot for fun - now they just collect dust. Also, when his Schizophrenic (diagnosed) nephew came to stay with us we locked them up at that time. He was very unstable and it made ME feel better, not because he was a danger. I don't know if he was or not. I do know he stopped taking his medication and that caused me some anxiety. I work for a psychiatrist preparing forensic reports and SSI evaluations. Without exception, all of the forensic reports deal with Schizophrenic's who have STOPPED taking their medication. That's when perhaps some gun control to the mentally ill may be useful.
Got off the track of the roses - Thanks. B.
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