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Re: danger of ssri's

Posted by Sean on June 15, 1999, at 16:45:25

In reply to Re: danger of ssri's, posted by Tom on June 15, 1999, at 12:10:03

Yep, the labeling could be much more honest and
comprehensible. For example, now that the SSRI's
have been out there for a decade, they should
probably say mention that *most* people have the
sexual side effects, that you should watch out
for becoming emotionally blunted, and that the
effects of the drug will probably not last without
increases in dose or supplemental drugs! Based
on what people say here and eveybody else I talk
to, this is the most likely outcome... oh, and
for some people you could become psychotic and
perhaps even violent.

Of course if they said all this stuff nobody would
take these meds right? That is the scary part for
the pharmaceutical industry, and hence their
relative silence.

> I agree with you Sean. I know people get serious relief from meds. But doctors pass them out like candy without telling you that sometimes
> (and I'm not talking rarely) that you might have a serious adverse reaction. Scores of people keep on taking the drug even after they know
> something is not right. I guess all the literature says that these drugs are safe and effective. Tell that to someone who is having
> psychotic breakdown on meds and can't figure out what's causing it. That to me is sad. I'm not going to debate the merits of biological versus psychological
> origins/causes of mental illness (I've had at least one or more diagnosable emotional disorders for over 20 years!), but I wish the medical
> community would come completely clean about these drugs. The first line of defense when someone reports a mental illness is to medicate them. I believe
> this should be the second line of defense. Psychotherapy and other forms of therapy should be first. Meds should come second, WITH FULL DISCLOSURE
> ABOUT WHAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN WHEN YOU TAKE MEDICINE. And I'm not talking about just reading the drug label insert that comes with your script.
> When 3 in 100 might have an adverse reaction to a medicine I believe this should be discussed. Most doctors won't even discuss what's on the
> label...I guess they've never had the unfortunate privelage of being on the wrong side of a doctor/patient relationship that went seriously wrong.
> Incidentally, I don't believe there is anything wrong with the so called "Scientlogy" web site. These groups are just trying to balance out everyone
> that sits on the sideline cheerleading the medicinal side. These people are needed in our society. We the people can make up our minds.
> Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > Check out very depressing,,,
> > > > > 'no pun intended'
> > > >
> > > > This looks like a Scientology site. I would ignore
> > > > it, although serotonin syndrome can be real.
> > > >
> > > > Re: psychedelics- the actual mechanism by which
> > > > LSD and psilocybin produce effects is still
> > > > being studied. All I can say from personal
> > > > experience is that the SSRI's are NOTHING
> > > > like LSD, mushrooms, cocaine, or PCP. The
> > > > only party drug that seems similar in some
> > > > ways is MDMA, which by the way, SSRI's can
> > > > actually help mitigate the neurotoxic effects
> > > > of.
> > > >
> > > > There are dangers to SSRI's and all meds. But there
> > > > are also dangers of not treating mental illness.
> > > > I personally believe the drug companies do mis
> > > > represent their products, but in the long run,
> > > > the truth always wins...
> > > >
> > > > Sean.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry, folks. The site is for real. There is inherent danger in AD's, even at recommended dosages. You must be living in a vacuum if you
> > > can't admit that these drugs can cause severe, adverse reactions, even when used correctly. Prozac at minimal dosages (less than 5mg) nearly made
> > > me psychotic. I thought it was just me going off the deep end. I must admit that there should be a happy medium for the pro-drug and anti-drug group, but it seems
> > > neither wants to budge. And the depressed folks just sit in the middle waiting for the real answer...
> > >
> > >
> >
> > So can aspirin, pseudaphedreine, and midol... But
> > the fact remains for the vast majority of people,
> > these side effects are not severe enough to
> > discontinue the drug.
> >
> > On the flip side, our understanding of both the
> > biological and environmental as pects of mental
> > health are increasing all the time, so it is
> > likely that better medications will emerge over
> > time...
> >
> > Personally, I don't like SSRI's, but to say they
> > are bad because the exert an influence on some of
> > the same neurotransmitter systems as LSD is not
> > adding any new information to the picture.
> > Maybe it is *necessary* for the serotonin system
> > to be involved to some degree, or for some people,
> > given the idiosyncratic chemistry of their
> > brain, serotonin is a big part of their depression.
> >
> > Would you deny those who receive benefit based
> > on your criteria?
> >
> > I would not, nor would I condone "forcing" these
> > compounds on people. But for the most part, we
> > are free to medicate or not medicate. I personally
> > think we should be free to take any drug.
> >
> > Sean.




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