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opting out of education

Posted by alexandra_k on August 4, 2020, at 0:16:45

it has been interesting, somewhat, with the Covid thing to see the supposedly first world developed democratic nations basically opt out of education.

that is to say opt out of even the facade of having their students be externally examined on the basis of merit in an invigilated exam context.

instead... basically asking teachers to simply pick the kids they like the best or pick the kids whose parents paid the most bribes or whatever...

and more in particular, make sure that the kids from 'under-privaledged' schools damn well stay there. so certain schools pick up the worst grades for more of their kids.

it makes a farce of the whole thing.

if doctors aren't doctors because they are knowledgeable and bound by codes of conduct.

it lawyers aren't lawyers because they are knowledgeable and bound by codes of conduct.

if nobody is.

if society is simply over-run by psychopaths.

if society is simply run by over-run by run by people who are focused on getting ahead getting ahead getting ahead kicking other people back and down getting ahead getting ahead getting ahead...

well...

just committees and board rooms and meetings full of people all focused on getting ahead getting ahead getting ahead...

no actual provision of anything.

noppers.

nothing.

there's nothing here. there's nobody home.

apparently it's not the government's job it's not the ombudsman's job it's not the tertiary education commissions job it's not the human rights people it's not the fraud hotline it's not amnesty international it's not anybody's job at all...

to stop our public education system being over-taken by money grubbing idiots who run on bribery and who don't actually allow anybody to work to international standards, at all. it's just a detention facility holding studnets for as long as they can becuase they can...

whole the output of the nation is...

uh...

yeah.

with only about 3 people having speaking rights.

we don't want to have a public education system.

it's just about picking the teenageers that the elite officials would like to abuse.

that's it.

there's nobody home.

 

Re: opting out of education

Posted by alexandra_k on August 4, 2020, at 0:36:05

In reply to opting out of education, posted by alexandra_k on August 4, 2020, at 0:16:45

and these people holding these jobs appear to be given chunks of money to basically ensure their job is not done.

that appears to be the idea. the ombudsman is the ombudsman becuase he squawks 'i don't see anything unreasonable about anything that anybody would choose to do i don't see anything unreasonable at all!' and so he gets paid. and apparently he's beyond question, or something. he's indepenent. he's the independent watchdog which means he can do whatever he likes (so long as what he likes is to say he doesn't see anything unreasonable, he doesn't see anything unreasonable, at all).

and the government arranges for his post. and hires him. and there is no accountabiltiy mechanism to ensure he is and remains competent at his job.

apparently you can't file for monetary damages out of a judicial review. you can only file for the original decisiont to be reversed.

so that means, what?

that every time there is a piece of assessment the faculty decides to fail me becuase, well, becuase why wouldn't you if you thought you could get away with it? and this country really seems to have so very very very much fun with making sure that i don't get to do anything anything anything at all. nobody does anything at all. either you become part of this whole not doing anything at all together we are all incompetnet and inept and corrupt together thing or else teh incompetent and inept and corrupt people will really set out to oppose you every single step of the way.

so every assignment. failing grade.

and then what?

judicial review?

the universities here don't appear to be fit for purpose.

they gutted them.

i suppose there is something... failure to perform a statutory function.

it might be that.

something.

the legal basis for the loss of earnings.

because they decide that they would prefer for me not to proceed to professional career here or anyplace else in the world.

because, you know, they have more teenagers they'd like to abuse who aren't competent to be promoting them and so on...

so you get the court pay-out and you go.

i guess that's the idea.

since i returned to new zealand.

before i left new zealand...

who helped me become a self-sufficient person in new zealand?

as opposed to attempting to exploit me and undermine me for their own personal advantage at my expense?

who did?

who does?

there really isn't anything here for me.

not even the most basic professional courtesy.

i mean people won't get process anything i do. any of the work. any of the forms. the theses. anything...

i wonder how many people are on pay-roll precisely so they NEVER do the thing they are competent to do. i mean, how many people are paid out consultant salaries to never set foot inside hospitals. paid out for loss of earnings because new zealand refused to allow them to function. hires and allows people to work who are incompetent only.

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what am i supposed to think or say right now?

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waikato did not do ANY of the things they were supposed to do.

they didn't enrol me in the calendar specified timeframe.

they didn't start my enrolment the day i started supervised work.

they didn't send a thesis submitted for examiantion out for examiantion AT ALL

they sent a masters thesis out and instruct examiners to write reports for 'doctoral examiantion'

they refused to base the outcome of examiantion on reports of examienrs.

they issued a letter saying i was required to pay additional fees and re-enrol and undergo another round of examination otherwise i would never complete the degree.

that's a demand that if i refuse to pay a bribe they will not sign me off.

they subsequently generate junk invoices where the numbers do not add up

they alter my transcripts to change details on programs of study already conferred. they alter the amount of time i was enrollled. they alter points values on qualfications.

they falsely record that i was failed for the degree when that is not what either of the examiners wrote in their reports.

i exhaust university complaints resolution.

i contact the corruption hotline to report the demand that i pay a bribe.

i contact the police to report the demand that i pay a bribe.

i write to the minister of health about how the public university refuses to do any of the things it's supposed to do. point out that acaemic freedom to work to international standarsd is in our statute as a requirement for universities. if universities don't do it then it is in the statute that the minister has the authority to request them to be shut down.

they shouldn't be allowed to enrol students and invoice them for degrees.

they aren't awarding degrees when people have met the requirements for them.

they aren't awarding scholarships, etiher. supposedly academic merit based scholarships are not getting to the students. if they even are awarded to anyone at all.

studnets are bullied out of submitting and are failed for submitting. if studnets don't agree to work in excess of requirements (so work off the record, outside enrolment periods etc) then the university simply fails them or refuses to sign them off.

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shut them down.

they aren't doing it right.

so f*ck*ng backwards.

so f*ck*ng backwards.

so f*ck*ng backwards.

why don't we have secure software systems?
why don't we have software systems?
why don't we have doctors?
why don't we have lawyers?
why don't we have engineers?

pick me! pick me! pick me!
abuse me!
i'm only here for the gratification of the council!

sqawk ! squawk wahoo! more money for us!! more money for us!! we win! all the money for us! all the money for us!!

as they drown in the stench of the epidemic.

it'll be here, soon.

i wonder how much longer before the bodies start piling up on streets.

 

Re: opting out of medicine

Posted by alexandra_k on August 4, 2020, at 0:50:36

In reply to Re: opting out of education, posted by alexandra_k on August 4, 2020, at 0:36:05

it's just a constant stream in the media about medical practitioners violating legal and / or professional standards.

being granted name suppression.

being instructed to say 'sorry'.

being given permission to carry on.

just a constant stream of it...

a constant stream of advertising that the reason you are scrambling over all the other pupplies (biting their heads off) to be top or alpha dog is because then you get your pick of your mates! all the moeny! all the power! all the things! you win! you win the game of you win and everyone else loses!

that's why there are more people who would make competent doctors than there are places available.

because the council decided that they liked to pick the competitively minded psychopathic teenagers to abuse so they declared many of them 'eligible' to apply precisely in order to crowd out all the other applicants.

i mean... why wouldn't you?

i don't get it to be honest. i really don't why.

i guess it has to do with teh supply of minors and drugs and the like. only thing that makes sense, really.

 

Re: opting out of medicine

Posted by alexandra_k on August 4, 2020, at 0:58:28

In reply to Re: opting out of medicine, posted by alexandra_k on August 4, 2020, at 0:50:36

I guess the problem is that the people who pick who gets to do it are the kinds of people who would steal candy from babies and if they saw someone in a position of vulnerability they would take advantage.

so they don't comprehend the enterprise or activity, even.

so there isn't the enterprise or activity, even.

they don't allow it.

 

I did want to return, and help make things better

Posted by alexandra_k on August 4, 2020, at 3:16:56

In reply to Re: opting out of medicine, posted by alexandra_k on August 4, 2020, at 0:58:28

for new zealanders.

it's just so f*ck*ng frustrating to be treated as a stupid child since my return.

it's awful how our universities have become a default pathway for most of our teenagers to go into when they exit secondary school.

it's awful how studnets are selected into different programmes of study on the basis of their answers to questions about their race and the educational status of their parents. in a sort of a 'let us decide what degree is right for you' sort of a way.

it's awful how determined they seem to be to not allow it to be about talent or about hard work.

it's an awful kind of controlling by people who, likely, when they were kids, had things dictated to by others. they don't feel they had many choices in life, so, damned if they will let other people have them, either.

it's awful how there are people in positions of seniority... who don't quite know how or why they got to be there... but they are plenty afraid that they'll be thrown back with the unruly masses if they don't toe various lines... imposter syndrome. yes. but then also a desire to pick them younger and younger and have them more and more afraid that you are their soverign master so that you feel less of an imposter... so that you feel more secure with the constant reassurance that you are the top dog and you known mostest and your will is authorative...

and that's the way it is. for generations.

it would be nice if they decided to make professional practice programs for students who have attained the age of 20 years. that means they have time between school and that. maybe they did a degree or two. maybe they worked. maybe they travelled. then, as adults, they apply to enrol becuase it's something they, as adults, decide they, themselves, want to do.

rather than it being an expected life pathway for some. and it being a life pathway that is not allowed for others.

it's tiresome working so hard to re-invent the wheel. it doesn't feel very satisfying to work so hard to get things that are taken for granted overseas.

i think about if i do get a pay-out (not likely, i don't think). if it was enough to immigrate. to study in the US as an undergraduate or for the 2 years or whatever to then study medicine. if i could afford it, i mean to say. vs if i could stay here and put a decent downpayment on a liveable house in a decent area.

i would like to stay.

if i am not persecuted here. i mean, i worry, genuinely, that if i make them give me a place in medicial school (because the judge orders it because it's the only thing they could do given their statutory function to process the f*ck*ng applications properly) then the faculty will just fail me for no reason. that kind of persectuted.

would they do that?

they failed me for POPLHLTH-101. because they had preferred applicants and because they wanted the preferred applicants to be successful and they thought that i was going to take a place from one of them. so they thought to prevent me from taking one of their preferred candidates places they would fail me so i couldn't apply. so they stabotaged me. yeah.

so why wouldn't they do that again? they get it into their heads, again, that i am a threat to them in some way... that i might get a job that they want to go to one of theirs, or whatever, so they decide to fail me for no good reason, again.

?

?

people say that it's competitive to get into medicine and then it's not.

but i don't believe that. people say all kinds of rubbish.

and they want people to believe that surgery is very very very very competitive and particularly orthopedics. they are determined for that.

it maybe helps that the STEP 1 exam is supposed to be pass-fail these days. and they've done away with the whole 'hierarchy of being' i mean, 'hierarchy of specialities' according to competitiveness.

it prevents a match. when people think they *should* apply to something for bad reasons. because they think they are smart enough / because they don't think they are smart enough. whatever.

it might help people be less competitive, here, in thinking that they want you to fail so there is one less person in their way.

people are not collaborative, here.

sometimes they pretend to be. but in a 'and keep your enemies even closer' kind of a way.

it's very unpleasant.

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i don't know.

i guess i would want to try.

if they persecute me to the point i have to seek refugee status if need be overseas then i will always know in myself i did my very very very very best to make things work here but all new zealand would offer me was a life on disability not allowing me to work, not crediting me for the work i do, not processing anything i do, not listening to anything i say. just treating me as a retarded child.

 

Re: I did want to return, and help make things better » alexandra_k

Posted by alexandra_k on August 4, 2020, at 22:23:16

In reply to I did want to return, and help make things better, posted by alexandra_k on August 4, 2020, at 3:16:56


> if they persecute me to the point i have to seek refugee status if need be overseas then i will always know in myself i did my very very very very best to make things work here but all new zealand would offer me was a life on disability not allowing me to work, not crediting me for the work i do, not processing anything i do, not listening to anything i say. just treating me as a retarded child.

just crying for handouts crying for handouts crying for handouts

crying for skilled workers of other nations to come here and help us

willing to pay the skilled workers of other nations to come here and help us

refusing to train out own

our preference to keep them as stupid children forever as slaves

this country makes no f*ck*ng sense
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