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Posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 19:08:01
In reply to Re: ?, posted by LegWarmers on December 19, 2005, at 6:46:49
> but mainly Id like to study cancer development
hmm. do ya think there might be math in that??
lol.
yeah. it would be cool to do something with a fairly obvious practical application...:-)
Posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 19:08:37
In reply to Re: ?, posted by ClearSkies on December 19, 2005, at 7:29:46
> I'd like to study Canadian literature - though I'm in the wrong country to do it - and write and be published.
:-)
Posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 19:09:23
In reply to Re: ? » alexandra_k2, posted by sal0805 on December 19, 2005, at 15:39:15
:-)
its a kind of liberating thought...
but kind of scarey as well...hmm.
Posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 19:10:53
In reply to Re: ?, posted by Phillipa on December 19, 2005, at 18:59:03
> Very simple find a med or combo that works so I can go back to work and not be afraid.
((((phillipa))))
> study the brain and how psych meds work.
yeah. i'd like to learn more about the brain. including... how psych meds work. but i think... there is math in that.
(anybody noticing a pattern of avoidance here)
;-)
Posted by Phillipa on December 19, 2005, at 19:15:31
In reply to Re: ? » Phillipa, posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 19:10:53
Alex hates math? Me too I stink at it better find something else like just how people interact. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by LegWarmers on December 19, 2005, at 19:28:58
In reply to Re: ? » LegWarmers, posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 19:08:01
> > but mainly Id like to study cancer development
>
> hmm. do ya think there might be math in that??
> lol.lol ah ya but just a little... math is kinda nasty stuff : )
> yeah. it would be cool to do something with a fairly obvious practical application...
>
> :-)practical ol' legwarmers here : )
Posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 20:30:10
In reply to ? » alexandra_k2, posted by LegWarmers on December 19, 2005, at 19:28:58
> lol ah ya but just a little... math is kinda nasty stuff : )
ah. methinks you are a lot better at math than me ;-)
> > yeah. it would be cool to do something with a fairly obvious practical application...
> > :-)
> practical ol' legwarmers here : )yup. i meant that in a good way. sometimes i feel a bit flat about working on stuff that doesn't really have a practical application. i mean... it has an 'indirect' one when it comes to getting the funding... but really... of course it doesn't lol. but cancer research... if you found the cure / treatment then you could save peoples lives. save so much pain and suffering.
and... science scholarships pay more than arts / soc sci :-(
Posted by muffled on December 19, 2005, at 23:36:54
In reply to Re: ? » LegWarmers, posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 20:30:10
I want to help homeless and street people cuz I'll proly be one of them one day.
muffled
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 20, 2005, at 0:39:13
In reply to ?, posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 1:23:22
> if you could study anything at all...
I'd study everything...
> if you could try and find out the answer to a question...
how to recycle everything
> or pick a particular topic...
> (or even a combination of both)
>
> what would you do?I shouldn't have tried to answer this when my sleep drugs didn't work and I can't sleep.
I try again with fresh brain.
Lar
Posted by LegWarmers on December 20, 2005, at 7:18:04
In reply to Re: ? » LegWarmers, posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 20:30:10
> > lol ah ya but just a little... math is kinda nasty stuff : )
>
> ah. methinks you are a lot better at math than me ;-)
>: )
> > > yeah. it would be cool to do something with a fairly obvious practical application...
> > > :-)
>
> > practical ol' legwarmers here : )
>
> yup. i meant that in a good way.I know, Im just really impractical IRL ; )
>sometimes i feel a bit flat about working on stuff that doesn't really have a practical application. i mean... it has an 'indirect' one when it comes to getting the funding... but really... of course it doesn't lol. but cancer research... if you found the cure / treatment then you could save peoples lives. save so much pain and suffering.
>
> and... science scholarships pay more than arts / soc sci :-(: (
but its all for good : )
Posted by wildcard on December 21, 2005, at 8:37:07
In reply to ?, posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 1:23:22
I would want to know why God allows bad things to happen...and if there really is a 'God' and a heaven and hell. Hope I phrased that right.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 22, 2005, at 0:27:15
In reply to Re: ? » alexandra_k2, posted by muffled on December 19, 2005, at 23:36:54
> I want to help homeless and street people cuz I'll proly be one of them one day.
> muffledlol.
yeah. i hear ya :-)
Posted by alexandra_k on December 22, 2005, at 0:28:08
In reply to Re: ? » alexandra_k2, posted by Larry Hoover on December 20, 2005, at 0:39:13
how to recycle everything?
that sounds pretty cool to me :-)
(though... i bet there is math in that too)
;-)
Posted by alexandra_k on December 22, 2005, at 0:30:51
In reply to Re: ? » alexandra_k2, posted by LegWarmers on December 20, 2005, at 7:18:04
> : (
> but its all for good : )hmm.
i wonder... about people working on cancer research... when they work for a drug company... they are paid a whole heap of money. if they discover the cure and the drug company gets to patent or whatever the drug then they make a BOMB. i mean... without the drug people will die... the drug companies get to name their price...
so the drug companies pay a great deal for good scientists. yup.
i bet people working on developing atomic bombs get paid rather a lot too...
but even early on...
more money in the sciences...
Posted by alexandra_k on December 22, 2005, at 0:35:01
In reply to Re: ? ***sensitive*** » alexandra_k2, posted by wildcard on December 21, 2005, at 8:37:07
> I would want to know why God allows bad things to happen...and if there really is a 'God' and a heaven and hell. Hope I phrased that right.
ah.
you want to do philosophy of religion.
:-)
i've done a little...
may i reccomend:
"Pojman"
It doesn't tell you the answer...
But it tells you a variety of answers...
So you can consider each in turn...
And make up your own mind.
Posted by wildcard on December 22, 2005, at 12:08:33
In reply to Re: ? ***sensitive*** » wildcard, posted by alexandra_k on December 22, 2005, at 0:35:01
you want to do philosophy of religion.
>>>No thanks..lol I have been there, done that w/ both of my younger brothers! Politics and religion I stay away from although I bet you have some excellent points!
Posted by alexandra_k on December 22, 2005, at 12:30:06
In reply to Re: ? ***sensitive*** » alexandra_k, posted by wildcard on December 22, 2005, at 12:08:33
> >>>No thanks..lol I have been there, done that w/ both of my younger brothers! Politics and religion I stay away from although I bet you have some excellent points!
ah.
i just meant that your questions...
what you wanted to know about...
those are questions that people try and answer
the people who are trying to answer them (who study what other people have to say about it and then go on to make up their own mind and try and tell others what they think)... well... they typically consider themselves to be doing philosophy of religion.i think... i understand what you mean...
sometimes... it just seems that people want to argue and that is missing the point...
but there are people out there who do study that...
and a lot of decent stuff has been written on it if you did want to read something...
the idea is...
that you figure out what you think for yourself after hearing the 'best of' what other people have to say...
Posted by muffled on December 22, 2005, at 12:31:40
In reply to Re: ? ***sensitive*** » wildcard, posted by alexandra_k on December 22, 2005, at 12:30:06
Posted by wildcard on December 22, 2005, at 12:37:17
In reply to Re: ? ***sensitive*** » wildcard, posted by alexandra_k on December 22, 2005, at 12:30:06
Exactly!! They want to 'prove' their belief on another person and that is a turn off. I like your way of here is A,B,C and D. Look at all and decide for yourself. I agree w/ you wholeheartedly and I am also interested in the book you mentioned. Thanks ;-)
Posted by alexandra_k on December 22, 2005, at 12:49:00
In reply to Re: ? ***sensitive*** » alexandra_k, posted by wildcard on December 22, 2005, at 12:37:17
> Exactly!! They want to 'prove' their belief on another person and that is a turn off.
Ah...
> I like your way of here is A,B,C and D. Look at all and decide for yourself.
Yeah, that is how it is supposed to go.
You can think of it as...
person a attempts to 'prove' that they are right...
and person b attempts to 'prove' that they are right...
and person c attempts to 'prove' that they are right...
and person d attempts to 'prove' that they are right...and so you read what they ALL have to say... and you think about it. think about whether what they have to say is plausible or not. whether it is possible or not. etc. (that is where the philosophy skills of critical thinking come into it)
and then...
after thinking and weighing and deciding for yourself...
you write a book about how a is right in these respects but wrong in these others...
and b is right in these respects but wrong in others...etc...
and what you get...
is you get to be person e and you are usually fairly sure that you are right ;-)
and others will read you critically ;-)
and may well agree in some respects and disagree in others...
sigh.
that kind of is what philosophy is about...
there is progress...
but...
it is slow...
because everything that can be questioned will be questioned at some point
;-)
usually the best place to start is to read a relatively simple introduction to the topic. so in this case... philosophy of religion. you already know a couple of questions you are particularly interested in and you may find that other questions are interesting too...you kind of want something that introduces the problem... then tells you one or two or three of the main answers to the problem. the strengths of the answer, the weakness of the answer. then you kind of get to decide which of the three you prefer or you might think of an alternative view (maybe by modifying one of the main ones).
introductory texts like that are the best way in...
eventually... you can build up to the books that the specialists have written where they present their own views. typically... you need to start 'small' to get your head around their terminology.
and it is only 'relatively' 'small' or 'easy'.
plenty hard IMO plenty hardbut then...
i guess we know the answer ain't gonna be simple
Posted by cricket on December 22, 2005, at 12:59:54
In reply to Re: ?, posted by ClearSkies on December 19, 2005, at 7:29:46
> I'd like to study Canadian literature - though I'm in the wrong country to do it - and write and be published.
>Are you an Alice Munro fan by any chance?
Posted by ClearSkies on December 22, 2005, at 13:56:29
In reply to Re: ? » ClearSkies, posted by cricket on December 22, 2005, at 12:59:54
Oh, yes. And the great dame Margaret Atwood.
And also Mordecai Richler, W.O. Mitchell, Margaret Laurence, Stephen Leacock, Robertson Davies, Gabrielle Roy...
Posted by alexandra_k on December 22, 2005, at 16:36:46
In reply to Re: ? » cricket, posted by ClearSkies on December 22, 2005, at 13:56:29
> Oh, yes. And the great dame Margaret Atwood.
> And also Mordecai Richler, W.O. Mitchell, Margaret Laurence, Stephen Leacock, Robertson Davies, Gabrielle Roy...I'm ashamed to admit that I've only heard of Margaret Atwood. But... I like her stuff very much indeed. In particular... "Alias Grace" and "The Handmaids Tale" (which I studied for 20th Century Fiction).
Maybe I'll have to give the others a go...
Posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2013, at 4:41:40
In reply to Re: ? » ClearSkies, posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 19:08:37
> > I'd like to study Canadian literature - though I'm in the wrong country to do it - and write and be published.
>
> :-)
>
>
>
>well well well, look what i found :-)
Posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2013, at 4:42:56
In reply to Re: ? » alexandra_k2, posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2013, at 4:41:40
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