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Posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 13:17:15
I kind of figure I don't have one so much.
Americans are such a mix. Do you suppose sharing a common culture is a comforting thing?
This all occurred to me while perusing a recipe book, and looking at all the different types of food.
It's amazing really.
And have you noticed how ethnicity plays a part in what is considered acceptable in the expression of emotions, attitudes toward mental illness?
Posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 14:03:43
In reply to Interest in ethnicity, posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 13:17:15
I don't think I have. What do you mean? I think New Orleans culture trumps many ethnic differences, although my experience lies solely within "European". I don't really notice any overwhelming cultural influences on views on mental health. In my experience it's been more about individual personalities, and personal experience.
My ancestors were English, German, and French. My mother has long been interested in geneology. I've only recently become interested.
Posted by ert on January 29, 2012, at 14:51:17
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » sleepygirl2, posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 14:03:43
> I don't think I have. What do you mean? I think New Orleans culture trumps many ethnic differences, although my experience lies solely within "European". I don't really notice any overwhelming cultural influences on views on mental health. In my experience it's been more about individual personalities, and personal experience.
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> My ancestors were English, German, and French. My mother has long been interested in geneology. I've only recently become interested.Where I live are ethnics (fugitives, immigrants) who were able to accommodate better than other ethnics. Being healthy has to do among other things with education or money too, depending on what healthcare system is established.
Language is an important factor. Language and being able to communicate has definitely something to do with being able to accommodate, integrate and learn.
People feel uncomfortable if they don't understand each other.
Personally, I must admit that I have more affinity for some ethnics than for other ethnics. e.g. persons from the region of Asia are sometimes less prone to violence or drug crime, but of course you can't generalize completely, exceptions do not fully prove the rule.
I am not sure if that was a somewhat appropriate answer to your question.
Posted by sigismund on January 29, 2012, at 15:23:23
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity, posted by ert on January 29, 2012, at 14:51:17
>And have you noticed how ethnicity plays a part in what is considered acceptable in the expression of emotions, attitudes toward mental illness?
There has been research into this from India. Especially on mental illness there. Is there some cross cultural field with a name I am trying to think of? Some cultures are necessarily more accepting (of bad as well as good).
Posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 18:03:45
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » sleepygirl2, posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 14:03:43
The French is interesting of course, because if New Orleans.
I imagine New Orleans might have it's own culture.
I guess New York does too.
My mother's side is all Irish, and Irish is typical of my immediate area.
Living in and near NYC though, are people from everywhere, recently immigrated or US born. The degree to which people have "Americanized" - whatever that is, is different.
The strength of family ties, ways of dress, educational pursuits, many other tendencies, makes me wonder what it's like for others.
Posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 18:06:11
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity, posted by ert on January 29, 2012, at 14:51:17
Language is important. I wish I spoke more than 1.
Posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 18:17:57
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity, posted by sigismund on January 29, 2012, at 15:23:23
There must be a good amount of research about it, right?
and here's another thing...
I asked my friend the other day...
I was looking at a US map, looking at the identified blue and red states, and wondering what accounts for that.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2008/I've no particular opinion about it, but just observations. Are the states more likely to be blue where it's highly populated? Metropolitan?
Why?
Please excuse my wonderings.
I think I might start wandering around soon saying "did you ever notice that.....?"
Posted by sigismund on January 29, 2012, at 21:09:15
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » sigismund, posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 18:17:57
Well, I am some way into "Deer Hunting with Jesus" so I ought to be able to say something. I think Joe Bageant would probably start talking about farmers and farming and a way of life gone now that agribusiness has taken over.
Posted by sigismund on January 29, 2012, at 21:10:45
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » sigismund, posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 18:17:57
Those 2 blue ones to the left and north of Texas.....what are their names? They stand out.
Posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 21:11:13
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » Dinah, posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 18:03:45
I don't think New Orleans is that great a draw for new immigrants anymore. We do have a thriving Vietnamese community that is recent in New Orleans terms. But for the most part, the people who come to New Orleans and stay love the culture here and soon become more native than the natives. But at one time it was a center for immigration, and those immigrants are what created our gumbo pot to begin with. My husband and I were commenting earlier today on the number of our favorite restaurants serving traditional New Orleans food that have Sicilian roots. As do many New Orleanians. :)
I think I may see what you mean, though. I do see a difference sometimes between New Orleanians and different parts of the country (aside from those transplants and potential transplants I mentioned). Northeasterners seem to have a much much quicker tempo than we have. Must be the weather.
Posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 21:24:03
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » sigismund, posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 18:17:57
It's an interesting question. That one is based on the last presidential election. I found this one as well.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/poli/20110926/msgs/1008780.html
I figured there was a possibility the discussion might get a bit political.
Posted by Beckett on January 29, 2012, at 21:41:50
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » sleepygirl2, posted by sigismund on January 29, 2012, at 21:10:45
> Those 2 blue ones to the left and north of Texas.....what are their names? They stand out.
Colorado, north.
New Mexico, south. Cormac McCarthy lives there: http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/201104085
Posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 22:16:21
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » sleepygirl2, posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 21:11:13
Some people say it's the traffic and congestion that contributes to the brusk way some northeasterners are. My friend from Texas told me, after she lived here for a while, that people are just trying to get somewhere.
I don't know.
I didn't really get to see too much of New Orleans, but it struck me as having it's own distinct style. It was the French quarter of course.
A lot of tourists though. ;-)
Posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 22:20:48
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » sigismund, posted by Beckett on January 29, 2012, at 21:41:50
I've been to New Mexico. I thought it was beautiful. I was in Albuquerque.
They say Santa Fe is very nice.Colorado, wow, that looks like one beautiful place (my brother showed me pictures). I've never been.
Posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 22:23:44
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity, posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 21:24:03
Thanks Dinah :-)
Posted by Beckett on January 30, 2012, at 2:54:08
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » Beckett, posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 22:20:48
I neglected to mention the link to the podcast found to Science Friday where McCarthy, Herzorg, and the physicist/author have a discussion. Or in my case, I download the mp3 version.
Dinah and sg, the maps are interesting!
Posted by Phillipa on January 30, 2012, at 10:05:47
In reply to Re: Interesting interests, posted by Beckett on January 30, 2012, at 2:54:08
Geez I asked where Kansas was yesterday didn't know. Here is a melting pot. Every country imaginable.Phillipa
Posted by sigismund on January 30, 2012, at 16:20:53
In reply to Re: Interesting interests, posted by Phillipa on January 30, 2012, at 10:05:47
>Here is a melting pot. Every country imaginable
Before 1950 olive oil was only sold in small bottles in pharmacies, along with, I feel obliged to add, the OTC morphine.
I was amused to read in a Japanese newspaper in 2008 when there was talk about Japanese whaling a letter, talking about Australian protests 'Australia has just made itself look racist and foolish again'.
Posted by emmanuel98 on January 30, 2012, at 19:13:50
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » sigismund, posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 18:17:57
Cities, for one thing, have more poor people who depend on the state, more immigrants who resent to conservative opposition to immigration, and in general, more people who recognize the importance of government. Government is way more important to people who use public parks rather than private yards, public pools rather than backyard pools, public roads and sidewalks, rather than private ways without sidewalks, etc., etc. Also, city people see poverty every day, even if they live in affluent neighborhoods. There's something about seeing homeless people and people who are living in dangerous neighborhoods that makes you want more to help them.
> There must be a good amount of research about it, right?
> and here's another thing...
> I asked my friend the other day...
> I was looking at a US map, looking at the identified blue and red states, and wondering what accounts for that.
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2008/
>
Posted by sleepygirl2 on January 30, 2012, at 22:10:01
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity, posted by emmanuel98 on January 30, 2012, at 19:13:50
that makes sense, thanks Emmanuel
Posted by Elanor Roosevelt on February 24, 2012, at 20:10:35
In reply to Interest in ethnicity, posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 13:17:15
living in ethnically diverse densely populated places is like being a part of a fantastic massive opera. unfortunately some days i lose my place in the script.
Posted by Beckett on February 27, 2012, at 21:07:43
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity, posted by Elanor Roosevelt on February 24, 2012, at 20:10:35
An interesting view. I find this metaphor appealing. Not the losing the place in the script part though. Sorry about that aspect.
I live in a more sparsely populated area. Whenever I have visited Manhatten, I have felt giddy with excitement. San Fransico is closest to us. Much less dense, though still many voices.
I found living in LA like an inscrutable noir novel. Really.
Posted by ert on February 28, 2012, at 9:06:45
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » ert, posted by sleepygirl2 on January 29, 2012, at 18:06:11
> Language is important. I wish I spoke more than 1.
>There were two cows in a field.
The first cow said "moo" and the second cow said "baaaa."
The first cow asked the second cow:
"Why did you say baaaa?"
"I'm learning a foreign language."source: from a book
Posted by Elanor Roosevelt on March 3, 2012, at 7:34:23
In reply to Re: Interest in ethnicity » Elanor Roosevelt, posted by Beckett on February 27, 2012, at 21:07:43
> An interesting view. I find this metaphor appealing. Not the losing the place in the script part though. Sorry about that aspect.
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> I live in a more sparsely populated area. Whenever I have visited Manhatten, I have felt giddy with excitement. San Fransico is closest to us. Much less dense, though still many voices.
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> I found living in LA like an inscrutable noir novel. Really.I'm with you on LA.
Spent 20 years in California.Oh, about losing my place in the script--hey-- has to happen every now and then. There are 8.5 million of us here.
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