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Posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2011, at 21:14:20
I am thinking about Cardigan Welsh Corgis.
I had no idea they had common ancestry with dachshunds (?).
Posted by sleepygirl2 on December 22, 2011, at 21:17:41
In reply to Can we talk dogs?, posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2011, at 21:14:20
I wish I could talk dogs. I can only say that I like the medium to large size ones best, playful and gentle.
I've got cats.
Posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2011, at 21:27:54
In reply to Re: Can we talk dogs? » floatingbridge, posted by sleepygirl2 on December 22, 2011, at 21:17:41
My last cat is gone. He was 17. Big 18 pounder. Scaredy cat :) boy. Had four at our peak.
We live where there are too many predators now :-(
Catnip? How many kitties?
Posted by sleepygirl2 on December 22, 2011, at 21:33:33
In reply to Re: Can we talk dogs? » sleepygirl2, posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2011, at 21:27:54
2 now
Our little guy, not so little, about a year old, all he wants do do is play and wrestle with our older cat (poor girl)
our older cat is sweet as can be, 7 years old
They follow me everywhere.
So, you have doggies? How many??
Posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2011, at 21:42:52
In reply to Re: Can we talk dogs? » floatingbridge, posted by sleepygirl2 on December 22, 2011, at 21:33:33
Two. A young girl who wants to play, and an old dachshund who I love dearly. He may have a year or so left, and I want a new dog that will know him. It's a lineage thing. My doxie was raised by my first dog, my lab, who is gone.
My young girl needs someone to play with. My poor dachshund jumps to high ground when she really starts to rumble. Plus she's an English cocker spaniel at about 32 pounds and he is maybe 22 pounds tops. She is all legs, too.
A year old? He is still fiery (?). Is that how you spell fire-ey? Why doesn't that look right? Oh pooh.
Posted by Phillipa on December 23, 2011, at 10:19:34
In reply to Re: Can we talk dogs? » sleepygirl2, posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2011, at 21:42:52
Welch Corgis are rated number l for being family dogs at least last time I read it they were.
I like little dogs my 2 are at close to 20lbs. But ideally they were be l0 lbs as picking them up hurts my back. Are you getting a new pup? Mixed breeds live the longest and have the least health problems no in breeding. love Phillipa
Posted by gadchik on December 23, 2011, at 12:33:01
In reply to Re: Can we talk dogs? » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on December 23, 2011, at 10:19:34
Hey all! I have a toy manchester terrier-ziggy-quite a character.These dogs are ratters from england.Also have a cat-she loves to wrestle with ziggy-they are the same size!
Posted by gadchik on December 23, 2011, at 12:45:22
In reply to Re: Can we talk dogs?, posted by gadchik on December 23, 2011, at 12:33:01
ziggy screams like a human toddler when he's not happy about something,and he burps,loudly, after dinner!
Posted by Phillipa on December 23, 2011, at 21:07:32
In reply to Re: Can we talk dogs?, posted by gadchik on December 23, 2011, at 12:45:22
I also have cat 13 years old now and still paying off the vet bill from August when another Vet almost did him in. I've not heard of the breed you have sounds like fun though. Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on December 23, 2011, at 21:24:06
In reply to Re: Can we talk dogs? » gadchik, posted by Phillipa on December 23, 2011, at 21:07:32
Phillipa, your cat is thirteen? Wow. Teenager.
Also corgis I didn't know corgis were such popular family dogs. There are no real corgi people around here. I rarely see them.
Until I met one recently, I thought they were supposed to grumpy and snippy. The one I met was jovial.
Posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2011, at 0:29:26
In reply to Re: Can we talk dogs? » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on December 23, 2011, at 21:24:06
FB that is what I read short little legs but family dogs. Love Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on December 24, 2011, at 11:30:53
In reply to Can we talk dogs?, posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2011, at 21:14:20
Cardis are fine dogs. They're big dogs in all ways but height. :) Strong and athletic. They need exercise and training, like most herding dogs. Because of their background, they tend to nip at heels if not trained not to. But my Shelties do that, too. (And I admit I don't discourage them doing it to me, since they seem to know not to apply pressure. They don't do it with strangers.)
http://www.terrificpets.com/articles/102177865.asp
Obedience classes are very good for most working dogs. They not only give them something to do, but help establish a healthy relationship with their owners. You might try agility too, if you have that in your area, or flyball, or any number of other dog relationship building activities.
Posted by Dinah on December 24, 2011, at 11:40:42
In reply to Re: Can we talk dogs? » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on December 23, 2011, at 10:19:34
As with any dog, if you buy from a breeder make sure it's a responsible breeder. Responsible breeders will check you out as much as you check them out. They'll probably have contracts saying that they will take the dog back if you can't keep it. It isn't a guarantee against problems, but you know they'll stand behind you if you have problems.
As far as mixed breed dogs being healthier, there is definitely advantages in having an open gene pool. But there's more to it than that. They've done amazing things with genetic testing lately. Not only can they test potential breeding stock for existing conditions, but many breed specific issues now have genetic tests so that long standing health issues can be weeded out by the responsible dog breeding community. Carriers can be identified, and bred carefully to noncarriers if they are bred at all.
http://petlvr.com/blog/2009/02/23/are-mutts-really-healthier/
By all means, be careful of your breeder. Do they test for hips and eyes and anything else that might be in a particular breed? Do they use whatever genetic tests are available for that breed? Do they register their results with the health registry?
All but my very first dog (a cocker mix who was a real sweetheart) have been purebreds. I like the predictability of temperament. I can be relatively sure going in that my well bred Sheltie will act like a well bred Sheltie. I generally expect my small dogs to live to be 15+ years, with minimal health issues, and my larger dogs to live to be 10-12 years or older, also with minimal health issues. I've had two sick dogs in a row, but only one was likely a genetic problem. My Sheltie was fine genetically. There was a tragic bout with an infection that came without any detectable symptoms and was gone by the time they tested her after discovering her kidneys were failing. I discovered this postmortem when I followed up with a biopsy for genetic registry purposes. It could have happened to anyone. I now get pet insurance for all my dogs.
And really, well bred dogs from responsible breeders are taken care of since before conception. Their parents are checked for genetic issues. Their mothers are fed healthy foods. They receive excellent vet care from birth. Many of the best working dog breeders (obedience, etc.) have a socialization program for their babies. Some of those programs are as well researched as Montessori for kids. :)
Posted by no rose garden on December 24, 2011, at 14:23:53
In reply to Re: Can we talk dogs? » sleepygirl2, posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2011, at 21:42:52
they have the same mutation as dwarf people...short limbs. I love doggies!!!!!!!!
Posted by no rose garden on December 24, 2011, at 14:27:11
In reply to corgi/dachshund, posted by no rose garden on December 24, 2011, at 14:23:53
Dinah knows everything about dogs! id din't read her whole post, but i think it's probably good....except I would not recommend buying from ANY breeder....so many homeless dogs :( Unfortunately, most shelter and rescue dogs seem to have behavioral/mental problems (understandably), so if you go to a breeder, find a good one.
Posted by floatingbridge on December 25, 2011, at 10:53:23
In reply to Re: corgi/dachshund, posted by no rose garden on December 24, 2011, at 14:27:11
> Dinah knows everything about dogs! id din't read her whole post, but i think it's probably good....except I would not recommend buying from ANY breeder....so many homeless dogs :( Unfortunately, most shelter and rescue dogs seem to have behavioral/mental problems (understandably), so if you go to a breeder, find a good one.
I thought I saw the corgi my son and I found by the side of the road last month, but no, it was an amazing crossbreed rescue dog that was playing ball on the roof of the local dispensary. Dazzling charm that doggie had and friendly to boot. Some rescues are so happy to be home.
Fascinating about dwarfism in doxies and corgis. And yes, Dinah knows dogs :-)
I read that Cardigan Welsh Corgis do descend from teckel and spritz breeds, the teckel breed being the common breed for the fabulous dachshund. I love my dauchshnd.
He is from circus dogs. We bought him for 25 cents from a Russian traveling circus act. He was not wanted because he does not have 'tuxedo' markings. He's lively, friendly, and puts' every stereotype of dachshund to rest, except for wandering (he is a scent hound, earth dog) and being stubborn (!!!!!!!!).
Posted by Dinah on December 25, 2011, at 13:23:13
In reply to Re: corgi/dachshund, posted by no rose garden on December 24, 2011, at 14:27:11
Well, thank you! How have you and yours been doing? I need to catch up at work so I can chat again.
I don't know nearly as much as I used to. I went to a dog show recently and was startled to realize they have whole new breeds of dogs that I've never heard of. Well, new to the AKC anyway. I'm sure they're not new. I can't wait to see my first Karelian Bear Dog.
Posted by Dinah on December 25, 2011, at 13:25:48
In reply to Re: corgi/dachshund, posted by floatingbridge on December 25, 2011, at 10:53:23
How fascinating! Did he have training?
My mother's family once got a retired horse from... well, I'm not sure it was a circus, but some sort of performing group. I'll check with her today.
She *loved* that horse, and told the most amazing stories about him.
Posted by floatingbridge on December 25, 2011, at 14:21:13
In reply to Re: corgi/dachshund » floatingbridge, posted by Dinah on December 25, 2011, at 13:25:48
> How fascinating! Did he have training?
>
> My mother's family once got a retired horse from... well, I'm not sure it was a circus, but some sort of performing group. I'll check with her today.
>
> She *loved* that horse, and told the most amazing stories about him.Nah, he was culled early because of his coat. Lucky us :). I think he was maybe of six weeks old. They were on the road and eager to be free of pups. They spoke little English. We, little Russian. Like 'nyet'. Dinah, he was adorable.
A bear dog? Wow.
Posted by gadchik on December 27, 2011, at 7:26:38
In reply to Re: corgi/dachshund » Dinah, posted by floatingbridge on December 25, 2011, at 14:21:13
my dog is going to vet to have his teeth cleaned today,as you know,they get anesthesia.this has me worried,as manchesters are sensitive to it.But this same vet neutered him,so should be ok.He will also get his nails trimmed.He hates to get them trimmed,he poops on the table at the vet's while they trim them.and bucks like a horse while we all try to hold him still.
Posted by floatingbridge on December 27, 2011, at 9:14:55
In reply to Re: corgi/dachshund, posted by gadchik on December 27, 2011, at 7:26:38
He sounds like a character. How old is he?
My doxie has had his teeth cleaned a few times.
I get a little nervous around the anesthesia, too. But he has always been fine. Not that doxies are particularly sensitive. But still....
Best wishes with your boy there :-)
Posted by gadchik on December 27, 2011, at 9:58:33
In reply to Re: corgi/dachshund » gadchik, posted by floatingbridge on December 27, 2011, at 9:14:55
He is 6.I can check on him at 12:30.Yes,very much a character.Ive had many dogs,none has had such a big personality.Have you ever had cats? We got one at petsmart,I was drawn to her.I'd never had cats.She is lovely,very easy and her pink nose makes me happy every time i see her!pets are essential for me.Ive had 3 dogs at once,that was crazy and fun.Now youve got me thinking of doxies-have always wanted one!Is there such thing as a toy doxie?
Posted by floatingbridge on December 27, 2011, at 10:07:42
In reply to Re: corgi/dachshund, posted by gadchik on December 27, 2011, at 9:58:33
There are miniature dachshunds, I believe, but my understanding is that they are less sound than the standards. There are lovely little doxies called 'tweenies'-- those dogs that are too big to be minis and to small to be standards. My lovely guy is 22 lbs, which is a small standard.
There might be a nice sweet mini out there for you. Good luck :)
I have had lots of cats. Had cats before and then during dogs. We lost our last cat (17 years old!) to predators. Too many here to have a cat--coyote, bob cats, mountain lions, more. Won't do that to a domestic kittie.
But I would love a sweet girl cat. *sigh*
Posted by gadchik on December 27, 2011, at 10:39:57
In reply to Re: corgi/dachshund » gadchik, posted by floatingbridge on December 27, 2011, at 10:07:42
i once took in a dog that had been chained up by the side of the road for days.everytime i walked by he would strain and strain,and jump for me to pet him.one day i noticed that he was rolling in the dirt on his back,so happy in the sun.I thought,how amazing that he can enjoy something when he is chained up and forgotten.then a man came out,i thought to tell me to go,but he asked if i wanted the dog.I immediately said yes.we had a huge fenced in yard.When I let him loose,he ran and jumped around the yard for 2 days straight!He turned into a marvelous pet.We had him for 13 yrs.and I went a little crazy when he passed.I always do.
Posted by floatingbridge on December 27, 2011, at 11:47:37
In reply to Re: corgi/dachshund, posted by gadchik on December 27, 2011, at 10:39:57
Sounds like that doggie knew he had found his doggie heaven on earth in your backyard and was jumping for joy:)
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