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Posted by johnj1 on November 15, 2010, at 13:42:08
In reply to Re: FYI » johnj1, posted by Maxime on November 14, 2010, at 15:45:30
Phillipa's husband? I don't like this one bit. That passive aggressive crap is uncivil. I don't like the tone of that. Yet again, we have the same person involved in these types of gossip and threatening types of babblemail.
Dr. Bob what are you going to do?
Posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2010, at 16:18:00
In reply to Re: FYI » Maxime, posted by johnj1 on November 15, 2010, at 13:42:08
> Phillipa's husband? I don't like this one bit. That passive aggressive crap is uncivil. I don't like the tone of that. Yet again, we have the same person involved in these types of gossip and threatening types of babblemail.
>
> Dr. Bob what are you going to do?Doing something is long overdue.
Posted by Phillipa on November 15, 2010, at 17:21:58
In reply to Re: FYI » Maxime, posted by johnj1 on November 14, 2010, at 14:13:52
Babblemail is able to be read by Dr. Bob. I would be more than glad to send the babblemails to Dr. Bob as kept copies both of mine send and those received. All are civil. And it is not permissible for my husband to post from same ISP as per old admin thread in I feel 2004 under my name when he was posting under the name of gnepig. Bob said only one poster from same ISP unless he used my name and signed his name at the bottom. Alexandra was involved at the time. Phillipa
Posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2010, at 17:38:12
In reply to Re: FYI » johnj1, posted by Phillipa on November 15, 2010, at 17:21:58
Posted by Phillipa on November 15, 2010, at 18:23:25
In reply to Re: FYI » johnj1, posted by Phillipa on November 15, 2010, at 17:21:58
You have to read the old admin thread to understand it was complicated. Goggle achieves
Posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2010, at 18:36:29
In reply to Re: FYI.....I do not understand your post, Phillip (nm) » Phillipa, posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2010, at 17:38:12
I am talking about babblemail content recently.
Posted by maxime on November 15, 2010, at 20:15:23
In reply to Re: FYI » johnj1, posted by Phillipa on November 15, 2010, at 17:21:58
> Babblemail is able to be read by Dr. Bob. I would be more than glad to send the babblemails to Dr. Bob as kept copies both of mine send and those received. All are civil. And it is not permissible for my husband to post from same ISP as per old admin thread in I feel 2004 under my name when he was posting under the name of gnepig. Bob said only one poster from same ISP unless he used my name and signed his name at the bottom. Alexandra was involved at the time. Phillipa
Yes, but you weren't talking about your husband posting on PB at first as indicated by the last part of your Babble Mail. You wrote it as if he was going to send me an email or something.
"It's hard for me and my husband to grasp why a last tribute a form of closure for his Mom has been tainted. And I did all I could to keep my husband from writing you as he is livid."
Posted by maxime on November 15, 2010, at 20:34:41
In reply to Re: FYI » johnj1, posted by Phillipa on November 15, 2010, at 17:21:58
> Babblemail is able to be read by Dr. Bob.
Yes, they are. I sent them to him because I don't like been threatened with the thought of posts and emails coming from a husband who is "livid" and in an another BM he was "spitting mad". To be honest I didn't know what sort of Babble Mail I was going to receive next. Didn't know if would be Phillipa or a "livid" and "spitting" mad husband.
Posted by glydin50 on November 15, 2010, at 20:54:25
In reply to FYI, posted by Maxime on November 13, 2010, at 22:25:34
> If anyone has a problem with me ... and according to Phillipa you have all been emailing her,
~~~ I'm not one of em...I have no problem w/ ya, Dear... just wanted you to know that : )
Posted by Phillipa on November 15, 2010, at 21:27:47
In reply to Re: FYI » Phillipa, posted by maxime on November 15, 2010, at 20:15:23
Well to be honest he wanted to open an account on his computer and babblemail you. I wouldn't let him as Bob said no and I don't have your e-mail so how could he email you? And he dictated his feelings. Either that or he would have done what he wanted to. Hard to stop someone from anything. I did succeed. And you heard his words written on the babblemail. Tainted and Spitting mad that's a threat? Boy the things he calls me in this house are definitely worse than that. But that's my problem. I deal with it. Phillipa now please just let it go "To Err is Human To Forgive Is Devine".it's time for me to work ebay calling. Got to earn money
Posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2010, at 21:35:57
In reply to Re: FYI » maxime, posted by Phillipa on November 15, 2010, at 21:27:47
"I wouldn't let him as Bob said no and I don't have your e-mail so how could he email you? "
Are you saying that you talked to Bob and asked him if your husband could create an account here so he could babblemail Maxime to tell her how "livid" he was?
Posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2010, at 21:55:50
In reply to Re: FYI » Phillipa, posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2010, at 21:35:57
> "I wouldn't let him as Bob said no and I don't have your e-mail so how could he email you? "
>
> Are you saying that you talked to Bob and asked him if your husband could create an account here so he could babblemail Maxime to tell her how "livid" he wasI joined Babble in 2002. As far back as I can remember, I've read posts that are written by posters who say they have received either babblemail or emails that they didn't particularly solicit. This seems to happen two or three times a year.
I believe that the old, old saying of "where there is smoke, there is fire" is usually true.
I can tell that this thread of comments is upsetting to you and I know that the recipients of the babblemails are upset. This is a mental health support forum. I would hope that the "behind the scenes" communications will end because none of us need anymore stress than we are already experiencing IRL.
Posted by Phillipa on November 15, 2010, at 22:10:33
In reply to Re: FYI » Phillipa, posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2010, at 21:35:57
Of course not. Back when first joined in 2004 we both posted under different names but had the same ISP. Bob said a choice was to be made. Pick his poster name and If I posted sign under his Postername with my postername. My husband decided to just let me post as it was too complicated and would be to others. Hence during a discussion on admin in I think 2004 we had to accept that just one could post and surely couldn't afford two ISP's. He was gnepig and I was Phillipa. Google his name and you will see posts of his a lot with Alexandra K at the time. No not upset as I spend most of my time on facebook. And ebaying. I must google a Michael Kors bag now. Phillipa
Posted by johnj1 on November 15, 2010, at 22:15:36
In reply to Re: FYI....babblemail account » fayeroe, posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2010, at 21:55:50
You are correct, it always seems we have a problem like this a few times a year....with the same poster. This type of veiled bullying should not be allowed on babblemail. Each time the person apologizes and runs away, just like when bullies are confronted. NOBODY should have to be subjected to this.
Dr. Bob, please explain if this type of gossip and threats are allowable on the site.
Posted by johnj1 on November 15, 2010, at 22:20:16
In reply to FYI, posted by Maxime on November 13, 2010, at 22:25:34
Hang in there. People have your back. When we don't feel well it can be overwhelming. Since the theme here is being civil all of the time I don't think it should be allowable to be mean via babblemail.
Dr. Bob please give advice.
Posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2010, at 23:00:19
In reply to Re: FYI » fayeroe, posted by Phillipa on November 15, 2010, at 22:10:33
> Of course not. Back when first joined in 2004 we both posted under different names but had the same ISP. Bob said a choice was to be made. Pick his poster name and If I posted sign under his Postername with my postername. My husband decided to just let me post as it was too complicated and would be to others. Hence during a discussion on admin in I think 2004 we had to accept that just one could post and surely couldn't afford two ISP's. He was gnepig and I was Phillipa.
Google his name and you will see posts of his a lot with Alexandra K at the time.
I won't worry with doing a search on Google for his name. I believe you.
I am concerned about the current babblemails that we're discussing today and tonight.
No not upset as I spend most of my time on facebook. And ebaying. I must google a Michael Kors bag now. Phillipa
I hope we can find some resolution tonight and I'm certain that you feel the same. I think that it would be a shame if we let this opportunity pass us by, don't you?
I know that everyone is busy IRL but I'm hopeful, Phillipa, that we can lay this issue to rest tonight.
I will be here.
Posted by glydin50 on November 16, 2010, at 7:28:08
In reply to FYI, posted by Maxime on November 13, 2010, at 22:25:34
Even Gladys Kravitz had an Abner to tell her to stay outta other's personal business... :) I don't know that Dr. Bob will take on the Abner role.
If (and when) a poster takes on the Gladys Kravitz's role and gets that reputation as what they "are" on a board, I am of the belief THAT can be contributory to the death of a site and a source of anger and harm that cause folks to retreat...
Posted by Dinah on November 16, 2010, at 7:59:12
In reply to Re: FYI, posted by glydin50 on November 16, 2010, at 7:28:08
"I remember Ame Sans Vie, but his name doesn't stick out as great poster - i.e. someone who posted a lot and was a constant part of the PB community. It was a long time ago."
If I had posted, at the request of a grieving mother, who might have been expected to request the comments posted at Babble, and someone made the above comment on the thread that the mother later requested a link to, a mother who very well might think their son was cared about here (not without reason) and that four years was not all that long ago when a son is lost, I might feel very uncomfortable at the idea of providing that link. And I might feel angry at feeling uncomfortable. My husband might feel a bit angry too.
Maxime, perhaps I overidentify with that mother. Certainly it is hard not to so when the younger pictures of Michael stir memories of my own son's vulnerability and innocence. Maybe they do for Phillipa as well, as she has her own son. No one wants to hurt you, but neither does anyone want to see Ame Sans Vie's mother hurt, given the pain she has already endured. I respect and appreciate that you have contacted her and worked things out.
Perhaps, in this instance, the least said the soonest mended. Maxime has appropriately repaired the situation and contacted Michael's mother. Phillipa has thanked her for that.
Why don't we just let this be?
Posted by johnj1 on November 16, 2010, at 8:56:17
In reply to Re: FYI, posted by Dinah on November 16, 2010, at 7:59:12
I think you are possibly being overly sensitive as it was not made in a mean spirited context and it wasn't uncivil.....the babblemails were uncivil.
It still doesn't give someone such as Phillipa and her husband to babblemail veiled threats. The point is this is something that happens numerous times a year and THAT is a huge problem. I dislike passive aggressive bullying and think it is uncivil. That is what is occurring here.
Posted by johnj1 on November 16, 2010, at 8:58:00
In reply to Re: FYI, posted by glydin50 on November 16, 2010, at 7:28:08
You hit the nail on the head. And people wonder why good people don't post anymore. Therein lies the answer.
Posted by Dinah on November 16, 2010, at 9:08:43
In reply to Re: FYI » Dinah, posted by johnj1 on November 16, 2010, at 8:56:17
If I understand correctly, Maxime felt accused by Phillipa's babblemail.
If I were Phillipa, in reading this thread I might feel accused of everything from causing self harm to reducing site traffic to threatening another poster.
Is there a moral difference between it happening in private and it happening in public? Is the pain less or greater?
Uncivil babblemails should be forwarded, with headers, to Dr. Bob. The notification function should be used with uncivil posts. It is against site guidelines to take matters into one's own hands, so to speak.
Everyone involved in this thread, so far as I see, is a long time poster and well aware of the site guidelines.
Dr. Bob *will* be around sooner or later. If the posters on this thread feel that having their say is worth any consequences that follow, that's their decision to make. But I hope that when consequences do follow, neither Dr. Bob nor any other poster will be considered to blame.
What any other poster does is their responsibility. What each of us does in response is our *own* responsibility.
Posted by Dinah on November 16, 2010, at 9:10:16
In reply to Re: FYI, posted by Dinah on November 16, 2010, at 9:08:43
I might also add that it's against site guidelines to publicly post private communication without the other poster's permission.
Posted by Dinah on November 16, 2010, at 9:14:56
In reply to Re: FYI » Dinah, posted by johnj1 on November 16, 2010, at 8:56:17
> I think you are possibly being overly sensitive...
Sensitive, certainly. If I'm to err, under these circumstances, I'll happily err on the side of "overly".
I will accept responsibility for my sensitivity.
Posted by Maxime on November 16, 2010, at 14:36:38
In reply to Re: FYI, posted by Dinah on November 16, 2010, at 7:59:12
Well Phillipa posted the YouTube video and asked to leave comments. I ASSUMED that she meant comments on the YouTube site. I didn't think that she meant ASV mother was going to come to PB to see the comments. Also, I was just posting my POV. I said that I didn't remember him and that was the truth. With all the posters on PB I think it's fully understandable that not everyone is going to remember all the posters.
Posted by Maxime on November 16, 2010, at 14:39:32
In reply to Re: FYI, posted by Dinah on November 16, 2010, at 9:08:43
I didn't feel accused by Phillipa's BM. I felt threatened by what she was saying about her husband. I was scared that I was going to get something VERY nasty from him. The only reason Phillipa stopped him from doing it is that she was worried SHE would get in trouble. That's all.
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