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Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D

Posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:34

Long drive yesterday on the radio last night this talk show said just came in that the doc that was living with Michael Jackson is now wanted for manslauter as he gave him propofel used in anesthesia was taking for sleep and he had needle marks in neck and chest. Poor Micheal. I do feel for him now. Phillipa

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » Phillipa

Posted by yxibow on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:34

In reply to Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D, posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2009, at 12:49:20

> Long drive yesterday on the radio last night this talk show said just came in that the doc that was living with Michael Jackson is now wanted for manslauter as he gave him propofel used in anesthesia was taking for sleep and he had needle marks in neck and chest. Poor Micheal. I do feel for him now. Phillipa

I don't know... sounds sort of hearsay like a lot of the investigations that are going on at the moment.

Propofol is a fairly safe -short term- anesthetic used for uncomplicated hospital procedures.

-- Jay

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D

Posted by gibbons482 on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:34

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » Phillipa, posted by yxibow on July 28, 2009, at 14:57:37

Propofol can cause respritory depression and can cause you to stop breathing, hence the o2 tanks they found, in the hospital, they provide you with o2 when they give it to you.

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D

Posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:35

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D, posted by gibbons482 on July 28, 2009, at 17:03:14

Confirmed in the front page of the newspaper today. Wonder if google has any more news. Boy that doc should be locked up in my opinion. Phillipa

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » Phillipa

Posted by Zyprexa on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:35

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D, posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2009, at 19:43:41

I don't think I would totaly blame the doctor. Micheal Jackson was asking for these meds. Going to diferent doctors till he could find one to give it to him.

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D

Posted by Sigismund on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:35

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » Phillipa, posted by Zyprexa on July 29, 2009, at 11:26:37

The thing that I wonder about is why anyone would need pethidine or anaesthetics when they already have Dilaudid?

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » Sigismund

Posted by Zyprexa on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:35

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D, posted by Sigismund on July 29, 2009, at 17:04:11

It does seem a bit extream to take general anithesia in order to sleep. Aparently he was doing this for a long time.

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » Sigismund

Posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:35

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D, posted by Sigismund on July 29, 2009, at 17:04:11

Sigi plus demerol, ultram, soma, two SSRI's and who knows what else. This doc now has warrants out for his arrest. Love PJ

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D

Posted by sdb on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:35

In reply to Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D, posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2009, at 12:49:20

Before it wasn't known that probably propofol was involved, for at least one week Xanax was blamed in the media in Germany to have caused the death.
Ethanol is a drug that is available over the counter and personally I like French wine. But if you see an abdomen full of aszites, portal hypertension, bilirubin swelling of the brain, esophagus varices... you acknowledge that is poison too. Never heard that it is common to use propofol for sleep regularly.

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » sdb

Posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:35

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D, posted by sdb on July 30, 2009, at 6:39:06

It's not it's an anesthetic that doc will get it bad when he's caught. Did he also have alchohol in his system? Phillipa

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson to pj

Posted by sdb on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:35

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » sdb, posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2009, at 20:05:15

> It's not it's an anesthetic that doc will get it bad when he's caught. Did he also have alchohol in his system? Phillipa

people always need reasons and newspapers can deliver it. Before anything was known there were rumors and false information that Xanax was the drug that caused the death. Pure mass hysteria. It is still not clear if propofol was the reason.

Later I read that the injury at Michael's scalp caused the drug dependency.

I don't know about dr. murray. It was written that he had a salary of 150'000 usd a month while accompanying Jackson on a concert tour...

Always be cautious to what people want you believe...

love

sdb

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson to pj » sdb

Posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:36

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson to pj, posted by sdb on July 30, 2009, at 21:16:55

sdb injury to scalp? Haven't heard that one. Love Phillipa PJ

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson to pj

Posted by sdb on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:36

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson to pj » sdb, posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2009, at 21:37:00

> sdb injury to scalp? Haven't heard that one. Love Phillipa PJ

this one is maybe true

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8Fop7eMjjE

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson to pj » sdb

Posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2009, at 23:24:15

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson to pj, posted by sdb on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:36

sdb that could have started his addiction to pain meds but wow it sure escalitated if he added so many other pain killers through the years. As the injury would be healed by now. Phillipa

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson to pj

Posted by TexasChic on July 30, 2009, at 23:57:37

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson to pj » sdb, posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2009, at 23:24:15

I doubt we'll ever know the absolute truth. It's all speculation on our part - and always will be. Let's just hope he's in a good place now.

-T

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » Sigismund

Posted by gobbledygook on July 31, 2009, at 14:59:54

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D, posted by Sigismund on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:35

> The thing that I wonder about is why anyone would need pethidine or anaesthetics when they already have Dilaudid?


Trouble in Mind...

Bonjour, Sig!
Ava

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D

Posted by sdb on July 31, 2009, at 17:41:48

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » Sigismund, posted by gobbledygook on July 31, 2009, at 14:59:54

he was obviously a lovely father seen here:

Michael Jackson home movies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b65kM80L0RE

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » sdb

Posted by Phillipa on July 31, 2009, at 20:10:00

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D, posted by sdb on July 31, 2009, at 17:41:48

Seems that way. What were we supposed to look closely for? Beautiful children for sure. Love Phillipa

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time O

Posted by hyperfocus on July 31, 2009, at 22:01:10

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D » sdb, posted by Phillipa on July 31, 2009, at 20:10:00

Yeah that's the thing - his daughter loved him very much. So whatever else he did, he was a good father.

 

Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D

Posted by sdb on August 1, 2009, at 7:39:16

In reply to Re: Heard Propofel Given To Micheal Jackson Time Of D, posted by sdb on July 30, 2009, at 22:53:35

> Before it wasn't known that probably propofol was involved, for at least one week Xanax was blamed in the media in Germany to have caused the death.
> Ethanol is a drug that is available over the counter and personally I like French wine. But if you see an abdomen full of aszites, portal hypertension, bilirubin swelling of the brain, esophagus varices... you acknowledge that is poison too. Never heard that it is common to use propofol for sleep regularly.

...but alcoholics intima/media thickness is normal and their coronaries look like those from babies no calcification, atheromas plaque or any debris.


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