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Posted by Lindenblüte on October 3, 2006, at 22:27:32
In reply to Re: This is a real story that reminded me of » Lindenblüte, posted by Racer on October 3, 2006, at 18:39:12
Ahhh Racer,
That was a lovely diversion. Thank you so much.I rarely read poetry... :)
It's like candy sometimes, but I can't translate the wrappers, so I'm never sure if I'm going to like it. I guess I like Hiney allright afterall.
Especially that last line. It's kind of like some Great Sentimental Romantic Poem collides with a Limerick, and the Limerick wins :)
No casualties, I hope. Was it a flesh wound?
yikes! Can you recommend me volumes with double quotes? I can read his stuff just fine with my modern German knowledge (Goethe was often frustrating, although not as frustrating as Shakespeare.)
-Li
p.s. Only took one literature class in college- it was on Doktor Faustus and his legend through the ages. :) Consider me ignorant, but curious :)
Posted by Racer on October 4, 2006, at 2:27:36
In reply to Re: This is a real story that reminded me of » Racer, posted by Lindenblüte on October 3, 2006, at 22:27:32
> Ahhh Racer,
> That was a lovely diversion. Thank you so much.You're very welcome. I'm just surprised you weren't familiar with him already. His poetry is quite popular still -- "Die Lorelei" is one of his best known poems, and that's apparently still sung as one floats down the Rhine...
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> I rarely read poetry... :)I rarely read it anymore, either. And, unfortunately, I have a very limited palette, if you will. The half dozen poets I like, I known nearly by heart. (OK, some entirely by heart. Makes it hard to read...) Heine is one I still read -- although my German is so dessicated now, it's too hard to read much. I keep saying I'll do something about it, but...
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> Especially that last line. It's kind of like some Great Sentimental Romantic Poem collides with a Limerick, and the Limerick wins :)If you like that, you'll like most of his work. The hard part, for me, is realizing that some of it truly is heartfelt with not a whisp of cynicism. He loved Germany, from where he was exiled. His poems about his Fatherland are heartbreaking, once one realizes that part.
> yikes! Can you recommend me volumes with double quotes? I can read his stuff just fine with my modern German knowledge (Goethe was often frustrating, although not as frustrating as Shakespeare.)I checked Amazon, and it's going to be very hard. I can't tell what looks worthwhile -- I think it's best to get them from Germany, but Penguin had a bilingual edition a while back, and I did find this one: "Heinrich Heine: Poetry and Prose" which is OK, but not my first choice -- limited selection, not necessarily my favorites of his poems; and "Songs of Love and Grief:" which I haven't seen in person.
Lemme say it again, though: he's one of my favorite poets, and just based on what I know of you, I think you'll like his work, too. It's heart-rending, but there's usually that wry smile to it, too. Even the most heartbreaking poems. And if you can find a copy of "The Poet Dying," which is about his last years, it will add meaning to many of his poems.
There's a poem in which he tells his wife, "after my funeral, ride home, do not walk. You'll be too tired..." He was paralyzed by what was likely Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, and fiercely worried about what would happen to his wife when he died. His jokes about her remarrying take on a new meaning, for me at least, when I keep that in mind. He wanted to make sure she was cared for, and thought she needed a husband to do that.
OK. I'm rambling again. And I think I need to go read some poetry...
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> -Li
> p.s. Only took one literature class in college- it was on Doktor Faustus and his legend through the ages. :) Consider me ignorant, but curious :)
Posted by Lindenblüte on October 4, 2006, at 7:50:47
In reply to Re: This is a real story that reminded me of » Lindenblüte, posted by Racer on October 4, 2006, at 2:27:36
Hi Racer,
Well, I know a lot of German poetry, but I don't know who wrote it, or when or why.I kind of absorbed little bits and pieces here and there, but it's a lot harder to absorb when not immersed.
Thank you very much for your kind suggestions. I will be sharing my place with a German woman next semester, so I may ask her to bring me a few books from D-land.
I think poetry is kind of good for my attention span. I do most of my pleasure reading when my brain is not much good for thinking. I.e. in between taking my evening meds and passing out.
Posted by madeline on October 4, 2006, at 8:09:10
In reply to my uncle in Alabama, posted by Bobby on October 3, 2006, at 14:06:21
Why is it okay to denigrate the south?
If you had simply changed Alabama to a predominately african american location, you would be labeled racist and PBC'd so fast your head would spin. Somehow people give themselves permission to just say whatever they want about the south.
Posted by Lindenblüte on October 4, 2006, at 10:05:27
In reply to Re: my uncle in Alabama » Bobby, posted by madeline on October 4, 2006, at 8:09:10
Ooh touchay Maddie,
Is it acceptable to denigrate the place one comes from? Is it acceptable for me to tell stories of my hillbilly relatives because when they do things that many people would find silly? Is it acceptable to tell stories of moonshine procurement in the dry county next door? Is it acceptable to add a little local flavor, even if that local flavor is seen as backwards and ignoble by the urban middle-class intelligentsia which currently hold the reins of political correctitude? Many times the local flavor is a source of pride and a sign of independence and individuality by the inhabitants of the locale in question. At what point does a story about an individual become generalizable to an entire group of people? Is it at the point of storytelling, or in the minds of the reader/listener?
Alabama is a geographic entity. Not sure why one would be offended, as Alabama contains many people, of whom Bobby's uncle is only one person.
but, yeah, I see your point.
I have moments when I want politically correct myself, and other moments when I only want to make fun of political correction. A tricky line to tread.
-Li
Posted by Bobby on October 4, 2006, at 19:57:44
In reply to Re: my uncle in Alabama » Bobby, posted by madeline on October 4, 2006, at 8:09:10
Can I call you Mad for short?
first , let me say that it's refreshing to see someone stick up for the south. I wish more people would do that. Secondly, I am southern born and raised---they don't come any more southern than me. also I would like the opportunity to explain myself.
I am from Georgia. Growing up in Georgia, it was customary to make fun of Alabama --in part because of various athletic rivalries. they teased us---we teased them. but let someone make fun of the south--and Alabama and Georgia become as one. Sort of like blacks can call each other N*****s and it's one thing --but if a white person calls a black person a N***** then somebody's probably going to the hospital. SOrry if you took it so hard ---but it's just a joke--nothing more (all of my uncles live in Georgia). I'm proud that you speak up for us Southerners---but have a glass of wine and relax. best wishes.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 7, 2006, at 23:00:40
In reply to Re: my uncle in Alabama » madeline, posted by Bobby on October 4, 2006, at 19:57:44
> Growing up in Georgia, it was customary to make fun of Alabama ... SOrry if you took it so hard ---but it's just a joke ... have a glass of wine and relax.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel denigrated. Even if it's customary or intended as a joke.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
PS: According to the new system:
previous block: 1 week
period of time since previous block: 13 weeks
uncivil toward a particular individual or group: yes
particularly uncivil: no
different type of incivility: no
clearly didn't understand PBC and made effort to reply: no
provoked: no
uncivil in multiple posts at same time: no
already archived: noIf we take 13 weeks, divide by 10, and round down, that's a reduction of 1 week. If we apply that to your previous block, that's 1 - 1 = 0 weeks. And if we go from there, that's 1 week.
Posted by Lindenblüte on October 7, 2006, at 23:57:12
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Bobby, posted by Dr. Bob on October 7, 2006, at 23:00:40
yes, I suppose bobby was somewhat prophetic when he said that he never gets PBC'd. He always gets a block straight away.
Oh well. I'll see you around Bobby :)
LiLoo
Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2006, at 16:50:08
In reply to Re: blocked for week, posted by Lindenblüte on October 7, 2006, at 23:57:12
Well he didn't offend me and I live in North Carolina. Came originally from Connecticut. You'd think I'd be the one to be insulted. Oh well. Love Phillipa
Posted by gardenergirl on October 8, 2006, at 19:18:08
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Lindenblüte, posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2006, at 16:50:08
Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2006, at 19:31:13
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Lindenblüte, posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2006, at 16:50:08
GG does that offend you? Maybe it's that Yankee blood left over. Don't know. Love Phillipa
Posted by madeline on October 8, 2006, at 20:00:32
In reply to Re: blocked for week, posted by Lindenblüte on October 7, 2006, at 23:57:12
the post for which he was blocked didn't offend me and it was directed to me!
Maddie
Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2006, at 20:59:07
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Lindenblüte, posted by madeline on October 8, 2006, at 20:00:32
Why do you say that? Love Phillipa
Posted by Lindenblüte on October 8, 2006, at 21:20:10
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Lindenblüte, posted by madeline on October 8, 2006, at 20:00:32
> the post for which he was blocked didn't offend me and it was directed to me!
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> MaddieI'm so glad you weren't hurt. this block thing is problematic at times.
I was so worried that you would be offended. Even though it wasn't my post, I participated in the thread. Well, if my hillbilly post was offensive I apologize for that. I don't want to offend or hurt anyone anywhere, especially not on babble :'(
In the meanwhile, i guess we just hang out for a few more days until bobby comes back :(
-Li
Posted by gardenergirl on October 8, 2006, at 21:31:00
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Phillipa, posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2006, at 19:31:13
The post? Or that you might not be the only one from the South on the boards?
I'm only skimming tonight, so I'm not following clearly, sorry.
gg
Posted by Declan on October 9, 2006, at 3:52:27
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Lindenblüte, posted by madeline on October 8, 2006, at 20:00:32
Yeah Maddie, one's never offended by stuff like that, hey?
The stuff that offends/hurts is always personal and hard to codify.
The biggest pleasure here has been all the different people.
Posted by madeline on October 9, 2006, at 5:06:56
In reply to Re: blocked for week » madeline, posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2006, at 20:59:07
being told to relax and have some wine is usually good advice :)
Posted by ClearSkies on October 9, 2006, at 8:07:51
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Lindenblüte, posted by madeline on October 8, 2006, at 20:00:32
> the post for which he was blocked didn't offend me and it was directed to me!
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> Maddie
That happened to me too.
Posted by Phillipa on October 9, 2006, at 19:46:25
In reply to Re: blocked for week » Phillipa, posted by madeline on October 9, 2006, at 5:06:56
Not if you have alchohol problems or they mess with your meds or are on benzos. Love Phillipa
Posted by fayeroe on October 11, 2006, at 9:54:44
In reply to Re: my uncle in Alabama » Bobby, posted by madeline on October 4, 2006, at 8:09:10
> Why is it okay to denigrate the south?
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> If you had simply changed Alabama to a predominately african american location, you would be labeled racist and PBC'd so fast your head would spin. Somehow people give themselves permission to just say whatever they want about the south.there are millions of jokes about every region of the country on the internet and floating around offices and homes all over the United States every day.
wanta hear an Okie joke? i'm from Oklahoma and i laugh at them all of the time. blonde, redhead, brunette? jokes are jokes. this is the social page or did i stumble upon administration accidentally?
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Posted by fayeroe on October 11, 2006, at 9:59:19
In reply to Re: my uncle in Alabama, posted by fayeroe on October 11, 2006, at 9:54:44
> > Why is it okay to denigrate the south?
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> > If you had simply changed Alabama to a predominately african american location, you would be labeled racist and PBC'd so fast your head would spin. Somehow people give themselves permission to just say whatever they want about the south.
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> there are millions of jokes about every region of the country on the internet and floating around offices and homes all over the United States every day.
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> wanta hear an Okie joke? i'm from Oklahoma and i laugh at them all of the time. blonde, redhead, brunette? jokes are jokes. this is the social page or did i stumble upon administration accidentally?i cannot believe that i forgot the Oklahoma-Texas jokes.........anyone know any Chicago jokes? :-)
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Posted by zazenducky on October 11, 2006, at 16:36:00
In reply to Re: my uncle in Alabama, posted by fayeroe on October 11, 2006, at 9:59:19
Posted by zazenducky on October 11, 2006, at 16:37:45
In reply to r*dnecks (nm), posted by zazenducky on October 11, 2006, at 16:36:00
Posted by zazenducky on October 11, 2006, at 16:47:22
In reply to r*dnecks (nm), posted by zazenducky on October 11, 2006, at 16:36:00
i lost my message inadvertantly
why do people want babble to be like everywhere else on earth? would the world be better if no one anywhere in the whole universe asterisked r*dneck??i think not
bob amuses me
anyone can tell an ethnic joke but only bob can asterisk all the r*dnecks on babble
i hope it doesn't offend em
isn't asterisking banned in Deuteronomy?
support diversity!
Posted by madeline on October 13, 2006, at 22:06:37
In reply to Re: my uncle in Alabama, posted by fayeroe on October 11, 2006, at 9:54:44
I'm just not sure that this is the most appropriate place for jokes like that.
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