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Posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
If you scan the Babble threads, you'll notice that one or two particular Babblers post to nearly every thread. AND their posts are more often than not, one-liners with no substance. While there are no Babble rules, like PBCs, to govern "spamming", I feel it's not cool to clog the pages with such rubbish. Also, the spammers risk the long-term effect of being ignored - kinda like "the boy who cried wolf".
Opinions welcome.
Posted by special_k on April 18, 2006, at 16:57:03
In reply to Babble spammers (rant), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
> If you scan the Babble threads, you'll notice that one or two particular Babblers post to nearly every thread. AND their posts are more often than not, one-liners with no substance. While there are no Babble rules, like PBCs, to govern "spamming", I feel it's not cool to clog the pages with such rubbish. Also, the spammers risk the long-term effect of being ignored - kinda like "the boy who cried wolf".
:-O
someone takes the effort to reply...
and you consider that 'spamming'?
how is one liners 'clogging' things up?
i would have thought that people who went on and on and on would be clogging things up more
(not that i think anybody does this)
because...
you don't have to read what you don't like.it might help to think of it as...
people who are trying to reach out and connect with others
not intending to spam
(not spamming)
attempting to maximise responses...if you don't like it...
ignore it.
but i think you will find that other people will not
and sometimes we just have to put up with things we don't like / don't udnerstand...
Posted by 10derHeart on April 18, 2006, at 16:58:31
In reply to Babble spammers (rant), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
Hmm...it's never bothered me, and here's an a different POV.
As the saying goes, one man's trash is another's treasure....so maybe where you see an annoying pattern, others see something else. Maybe to some, any length post, no matter how much *substance* it seems to have - or not have - is treasured because another Babbler noticed their thread and took time to respond at all. Maybe it doesn't always matter *what* they said, but the act of saying anything at all was enough?
At least that's my first thought on those who can post far more often than I can, and to many more threads.
And just as a friendly caution, I'm not sure it's polite or supportive to characterize another person's post, whether it be one-line or an entire page, as "rubbish." Even though you were careful not to name anyone, I think it would be fairly easy for others to think you're talking about them and feel put down.Respectfully,
10derHeart
Posted by ClearSkies on April 18, 2006, at 16:59:22
In reply to Babble spammers (rant), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
Hey, I remember you from previous threads.
I remember you very well.Is that what you mean by meaningless, one-line responses?
Posted by verne on April 18, 2006, at 17:54:00
In reply to Babble spammers (rant), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
Posted by jammerlich on April 18, 2006, at 18:53:21
In reply to Re: Babble spammers (rant) » ron1953, posted by ClearSkies on April 18, 2006, at 16:59:22
Personally, I appreciate any response someone gives me, be it one line or a hundred.
Posted by Phil on April 18, 2006, at 20:19:39
In reply to Babble spammers (rant), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
Opinions welcome.
I think they're probably in the right place. There's a reason we're all here, you know?
Posted by wildcard11 on April 18, 2006, at 20:53:57
In reply to Babble spammers (rant), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
Posted by Phillipa on April 18, 2006, at 22:28:17
In reply to Re: Babble spammers (rant) » ron1953, posted by Phil on April 18, 2006, at 20:19:39
I feel the fact that someone has actually acknowleged them means a lot to people. You never know what there exisistence is like IRL. Sometimes it helps to know someone cares. And sometimes it's almost like grasping at straws just to find something to say to help the other person know someone is out there who heard them. Empathy is not always knowledge. Some posts are so incredible with the persons knwledge I don't even understand it. Love Phillipa
Posted by muffled on April 18, 2006, at 22:44:47
In reply to Re: Babble spammers (rant), posted by Phillipa on April 18, 2006, at 22:28:17
I love it when people aknowledge my existance in any way.
It is huge for me.
HUGE.
I was ignored alot as I kid I think...
I am thrilled when someone takes the time to acknowledge me.
I do one liners when I wish I could say something and I either dunno what to say or I am running out of time, but I still want the person to know I care.
muffled
Posted by muffled on April 18, 2006, at 22:49:27
In reply to Babble spammers (rant), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
Posted by muffled on April 18, 2006, at 22:50:09
In reply to Babble spammers (rant), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
Posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 23:21:26
In reply to Babble spammers (rant), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
Posted by verne on April 18, 2006, at 23:47:12
In reply to Re: Babble spammers (rant) » ron1953, posted by 10derHeart on April 18, 2006, at 16:58:31
I just wanted to add that, although I understand where Ron is coming from, I, myself, don't have a problem with one-liners. I mean, I can see where one-line posters are coming from too.
The important thing for me is that nobody feels left out or isolated. So I'm verifying what both camps are feeling.
I've never been too comfortable with the "chat" aspect and usually shy away from the quick give-and-take conversations (one-liners). I still don't trust online relationships and keep my distance. (now I'm explaining myself and completely hijacking this thread)
I think I'm out of my comfort zone, posting at all. One personality profile pegs me as a "reformer" (enneagrams I think). I want to help, to fix the world, which might explain why I post in spite of my introversion.
I don't know why I feel compelled to explain. (that's why I'm using parentheses all the time) Once my pdoc said, "Do you know how much you hurt yourself when you do that?" and I realized how painful my habitual explaining really was.
Reforming is no fun either. I'm one of the worst reformers I've ever met, although I'm still an excellent backseat driver.
verne
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 19, 2006, at 0:55:58
In reply to OK. Ron needs to be more tolerant (nm), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 23:21:26
Posted by Racer on April 19, 2006, at 14:05:09
In reply to Re: Babble spammers (rant), posted by verne on April 18, 2006, at 23:47:12
I do the explaining, too, so I think I can empathize with where that comes from.
That's why I wanted you to know that I think you're a very good Reformer, and you can drive from my back seat anytime. (I look forward to reading your posts, because you often show me a perspective that I wish I'd seen myself, and you do it with such articulateness. [is that a word?])
As for the whole one-liner thing, for me it's context and content dependent. As far as content goes, it's nice sometimes to have someone say something like, "I don't have a suggestion, but I do care." It's also frustrating, often, when I ask a specific question and get a lot of replies without any information that could lead to an answer. And that's where context comes in: on the meds board, most of my posts are about specific topics, and I am looking for an answer if I start a post. On the other boards, though, especially Social, I expect the responses to be more "social." (Then again, if I start a thread on Social, I'm usually just being silly, so I look forward to responsive silliness...)
There. That's how I see it. Clear as mud, right?
(Parenthetically yours...)
Posted by ron1953 on April 19, 2006, at 15:07:45
In reply to Re: Babble spammers (rant) » verne, posted by Racer on April 19, 2006, at 14:05:09
I like to make words up, too.
I'm not exactly sure what a Reformer is but I do like to see things from multiple perspectives. That's why I was able to address my own intolerance.
I have found that it's worth some self-control to not post unless I have something of substance to offer. It's like not interrupting a conversation when you just want to be involved, instead of having something relevant to add. Sometimes we can be more interested in what we have to say and don't listen very well. I noticed (more than a year ago, when last I posted) that my credibility was better than if I had plastered the boards with inanities (yes, it's a word).
But I will continue to remind myself that I can simply ignore that with which I'm not interested, though I still think that there is a risk of being ignored if one is too pesky.
Posted by Phillipa on April 19, 2006, at 22:10:11
In reply to Re: Babble spammers (rant) » verne, posted by Racer on April 19, 2006, at 14:05:09
Real answers on the meds board come from the doctors they are personal experience only on the meds board. If I'm correct Dr. Bob always asks someone who claims to call themself doctor if they really are.. Let's face it people this is a site for personal advise some humor and as one poster recently told me they suffered from agoraphobia and haveing this board saved their life. As they could not leave the house. Love Phillipa
Posted by summer-lover on April 21, 2006, at 10:35:49
In reply to Babble spammers (rant), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
Posted by zazenduck on April 21, 2006, at 11:20:11
In reply to The one-liners are usually the most humorous!!;o) (nm) » ron1953, posted by summer-lover on April 21, 2006, at 10:35:49
Posted by zazenduck on April 21, 2006, at 11:35:21
In reply to Call me a wang and redirect me but I have to agree (nm) » summer-lover, posted by zazenduck on April 21, 2006, at 11:20:11
it's embarassing to be this bored in public
Posted by alesta on April 21, 2006, at 12:53:21
In reply to Babble spammers (rant), posted by ron1953 on April 18, 2006, at 16:16:36
i really like the way this thread was handled.:) ron was able to post his thoughts, open to feedback, and receive that feedback without anyone getting offended (for the most part, in the posts i read anyway) and ppl lending their points of view...i guess i'm a lover of harmony..and wanted to give credit to all involved (well, most) for just having a friendly discourse.
if this post seems strange, well, i guess i feel pretty strange lately :-) don't mind me.;)
amy:)
p.s. i actually am pretty "out of it" right now, so i hope i didn't miss the fact that there were some majorly explosive posts in there or somethin :) perhaps everyone should just disregard me for a while....
Posted by Phillipa on April 21, 2006, at 20:31:07
In reply to :-), posted by alesta on April 21, 2006, at 12:53:21
Alesta you are a sweetie and don't stop posting I think you have assessed the thread accurately. And isn't harmony nice? Love Phillipa
Posted by alesta on April 22, 2006, at 12:58:33
In reply to Re: :-) » alesta, posted by Phillipa on April 21, 2006, at 20:31:07
> Alesta you are a sweetie and don't stop posting I think you have assessed the thread accurately.
well thanks!:)
<And isn't harmony nice?
yes, phillipa, it's fantastic (said in arnold schwarzenegger voice..) :) i can't spell his da*n name. anyways, are you out there today? ppl need to get their as*es in here on weekends..
love
amelia
Posted by curtm on April 25, 2006, at 14:00:18
In reply to Re: :-) » Phillipa, posted by alesta on April 22, 2006, at 12:58:33
This is the end of the thread.
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