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Posted by LegWarmers on January 23, 2006, at 22:22:21
At what point would you consider not telling someone something a lie?
If you went along with something because it was easier to, for an extended period of time...but it really was't the truth, but you were also not stating any truth as yours just letting someone believe what they assume to be true, which I am assuming is not the truth, are you lying?
Posted by LegWarmers on January 23, 2006, at 22:29:22
In reply to Omission of information versus lying, posted by LegWarmers on January 23, 2006, at 22:22:21
>>If you went along with something because it was easier to, for an extended period of time...but it really was't the truth, but you were also not stating any truth as yours just letting someone believe what they assume to be true, which I am assuming is not the truth, are you lying?
say that 5 times fast ; )hopefully someone will be able to follow
Posted by muffled on January 23, 2006, at 22:35:07
In reply to On a side note, posted by LegWarmers on January 23, 2006, at 22:29:22
but i got a real small brain.
Posted by Maynerd on January 23, 2006, at 22:57:38
In reply to Omission of information versus lying, posted by LegWarmers on January 23, 2006, at 22:22:21
I don't consider omission as lying in the least bit, I do think it can sometimes be considered manipulative and/or deceptive. I guess it all depends on the circumstances, if the omission is done out of love or malicious spite.
Posted by LegWarmers on January 23, 2006, at 23:05:41
In reply to Re: Omission of information versus lying, posted by Maynerd on January 23, 2006, at 22:57:38
it is not done out of spite or malice, its just easier, it's seems irrelevant information at the time but down the road it may become important. But if the person was ever to find out, then they would be really embarrassed for things they have said, so I was feeling guilty, but it is their own thoughts, isn't it? I don't have any responsibilty there, do I?
Posted by antigua on January 24, 2006, at 8:24:37
In reply to Re: Omission of information versus lying » Maynerd, posted by LegWarmers on January 23, 2006, at 23:05:41
The only omission of information that bothers me is when it comes from my kids--I tend to call that lying because they aren't giving me complete information. Otherwise, I'm fine with it; it's not always best to tell everything.
just my two cents,
antigua
Posted by jay on January 24, 2006, at 12:30:21
In reply to Omission of information versus lying, posted by LegWarmers on January 23, 2006, at 22:22:21
Sounds like something that would come up in the Bush administration regarding WMD's and Iraq :-).
Jay
Posted by gee on January 24, 2006, at 13:47:39
In reply to Re: Omission of information versus lying » LegWarmers, posted by jay on January 24, 2006, at 12:30:21
I think it's lying if you give the person wrong information or lead them to believe something different than what you know is right. Then again, I think personal information in certain cercumstances should be ommitted, because it's not always the other persons buisness
Posted by LegWarmers on January 24, 2006, at 15:15:22
In reply to Re: Omission of information versus lying » LegWarmers, posted by jay on January 24, 2006, at 12:30:21
Posted by LegWarmers on January 24, 2006, at 15:17:50
In reply to Re: Omission of information versus lying, posted by gee on January 24, 2006, at 13:47:39
> I think it's lying if you give the person wrong information or lead them to believe something different than what you know is right. Then again, I think personal information in certain cercumstances should be ommitted, because it's not always the other persons buisness
Its tough because on one hand its *your* personal information but on the other... ugh, I dunno.
i think... Im going to assume I'm not misleading this person.
Posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2006, at 16:18:54
In reply to Re: Omission of information versus lying » gee, posted by LegWarmers on January 24, 2006, at 15:17:50
lol you can be cryptic sometimes.
hard to know what to say without knowing more about it. what kind of personal information that they are assuming etc...
Posted by LegWarmers on January 24, 2006, at 19:51:20
In reply to Re: Omission of information versus lying » LegWarmers, posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2006, at 16:18:54
If Tom Cruse were my brother, and he came up in conversation with someone and I do not mention the relationship even after this person continually trashes him (hey, its their opinion ;) ), am I lying because of the possibility, that one day, this person may end up finding out and as a result feel very embarrassed?
Posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2006, at 20:53:50
In reply to ok example lol and tom isnt my brother :) » alexandra_k, posted by LegWarmers on January 24, 2006, at 19:51:20
Ah.
I think I would tell this person yep.
And try and smooth over them feeling embarrassed later.
Or... Maybe not.
Heh heh
I dunno :-)
Posted by Phillipa on January 24, 2006, at 21:04:50
In reply to Re: ok example lol and tom isnt my brother :) » LegWarmers, posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2006, at 20:53:50
Are you trying to protect the person from something that could come up later? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by wildcard11 on January 24, 2006, at 21:33:49
In reply to Re: ok example lol and tom isnt my brother :), posted by Phillipa on January 24, 2006, at 21:04:50
is the person running their mouth to you about someone else anyways? why don't they tell this person what they think...i would charge for therapy
ps~excuse my bitchiness, i feel like a potato w/ legs today!
Posted by LegWarmers on January 24, 2006, at 21:38:52
In reply to why **************, posted by wildcard11 on January 24, 2006, at 21:33:49
> is the person running their mouth to you about someone else anyways? why don't they tell this person what they think...i would charge for therapy
>
> ps~excuse my bitchiness, i feel like a potato w/ legs today!haha they are just doing it in conversation, not coming to me about it directly...they just keep throwing comments out. I should have said something when it came up but it didn't seem to matter until I got to know them better and they started expressing their views. It's kinda complicated *sigh* Now I just feel like a big Idiot for letting it go on...
Posted by LegWarmers on January 24, 2006, at 21:40:17
In reply to Re: ok example lol and tom isnt my brother :), posted by Phillipa on January 24, 2006, at 21:04:50
> Are you trying to protect the person from something that could come up later? Fondly, Phillipa
I was both trying to protect me, and now I would say Im trying to protect them from feeling embarrassed and me from having to say anything at all about it. Life is so complicated!
Posted by LegWarmers on January 24, 2006, at 21:42:51
In reply to Re: ok example lol and tom isnt my brother :) » LegWarmers, posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2006, at 20:53:50
> Ah.
>
> I think I would tell this person yep.
> And try and smooth over them feeling embarrassed later.
> Or... Maybe not.
> Heh heh
> I dunno :-)
>
>Yeah, it really is a hard dilema, its too complicated to describe in detail here. I really don't like this
Posted by wildcard11 on January 24, 2006, at 22:03:56
In reply to Re: why ************** » wildcard11, posted by LegWarmers on January 24, 2006, at 21:38:52
Posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2006, at 17:07:20
In reply to Re: ok example lol and tom isnt my brother :) » alexandra_k, posted by LegWarmers on January 24, 2006, at 21:42:51
Hmm. I hate those kinds of predicaments too. From what you have described... Those are the kinds of predicaments I often find myself in. To start with you don't say anything because you don't want to embarass them... But it only gets worse over time. And no time seems like the right time...
So... I don't know. Maybe next time the person starts talking about him you could say something. It would be about figuring out a way of doing it that is kind of natural and doesn't make a big deal of it.
I'm stuffed if I know... Truth be told I probably wouldn't say anything and one day when the person hits you up 'why didn't you say something!' I'd just say that I wasn't sure on how to go about that but it isn't a big deal...
Posted by LegWarmers on January 25, 2006, at 22:46:01
In reply to Re: ok example lol and tom isnt my brother :) » LegWarmers, posted by alexandra_k on January 25, 2006, at 17:07:20
>But it only gets worse over time. And no time seems like the right time...
yes exactly!
>
> So... I don't know. Maybe next time the person starts talking about him you could say something. It would be about figuring out a way of doing it that is kind of natural and doesn't make a big deal of it.
>
> I'm stuffed if I know... Truth be told I probably wouldn't say anything and one day when the person hits you up 'why didn't you say something!' I'd just say that I wasn't sure on how to go about that but it isn't a big deal...
lol its kinda a mess, thats a good idea!
the other option is to stop hanging out with him and not have him in my life haha ;)
It was an accidental realtionship that built, which is why I didn't care to say anything initally, they meant nothing to me. Well, maybe the right time will come up, it may.
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