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Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS?

Posted by allisonross on November 22, 2005, at 13:02:42

The anniversary of President Kennedy's assasination.

I think for my generation, that was the end of innocence.

 

Re: Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS?

Posted by spriggy on November 22, 2005, at 13:22:47

In reply to Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS?, posted by allisonross on November 22, 2005, at 13:02:42

I was born a decade later but I actually remembered!

I've read a lot about it and have always been a bit fascinated with that era.

 

Re: Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS?

Posted by allisonross on November 22, 2005, at 13:53:44

In reply to Re: Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS?, posted by spriggy on November 22, 2005, at 13:22:47

> I was born a decade later but I actually remembered!
>
Good for you. I was in high school.


> I've read a lot about it and have always been a bit fascinated with that era.

I have a copy of the life magazine (it was reproduced); and a record album of the day he was assasinated. It has his face on the cover, and a recording of all of the famous people all over the world, making comments.

It might be worth something some day.

It was the most traumatic thing that had ever happened in our lives; he was so incredibly charismatic; gorgeous, witty, the media loved him.

Jackie was so impeccably dressed and gorgeous. it certainly was...camelot for a short time....and then of coourse, when their son John was killed a few years ago.

I am glad his parents were not alive to see that.

They had such an impact on our lives at that time.

Hugs, and thanks for remembering! I was appalled, I didn't see anything in the newspaper or internet.

i went to Arlington, where the Eternal Flame is (did you know about that)?
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Re: Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS?

Posted by caraher on November 22, 2005, at 15:13:20

In reply to Re: Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS?, posted by allisonross on November 22, 2005, at 13:53:44

I'm quite aware of it. My parents kept all the newspapers from those days... I was born the following May, on JFK's birthday in fact. My parents named me John without paying any particular attention but an aunt immediately decided there was some magical connection (I suppose that partly comes from having an Irish Catholic background).

Defintely up there on the list of "where were you when you heard?" moments...

 

I remembered!!!!!!!! » allisonross

Posted by thuso on November 22, 2005, at 15:16:27

In reply to Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS?, posted by allisonross on November 22, 2005, at 13:02:42

> The anniversary of President Kennedy's assasination.
>
> I think for my generation, that was the end of innocence.
>

I wasn't alive, but you want to know why I remember and will never forget the day of his assasination? This week isn't the best for my family. For some very odd reason, people in my family like to die this week. My grandpa died on the 23rd, an aunt on the 24th (one year after my grandpa), and another aunt on the 25th (many years later). I always get nervous when this week comes every year. And since I can't forget the 23rd, 24th, and 25th, it was very easy to remember Kennedy dying on the 22nd. People are usually shocked to see that I know that bit of history since I'm only in my 20's.

 

I wasn't alive yet either...

Posted by TexasChic on November 22, 2005, at 19:54:10

In reply to I remembered!!!!!!!! » allisonross, posted by thuso on November 22, 2005, at 15:16:27

I wasn't born yet, but I've driven past the spot it happened many times. The only way I can comprehend what it must have been like is to compare it to 9/11. The loss, shock, disbelief, outrage, and feeling that nothing will ever be the same again. I'll always remember where I was when that happened.

-T

 

Re: I wasn't alive yet either... » TexasChic

Posted by thuso on November 22, 2005, at 20:36:00

In reply to I wasn't alive yet either..., posted by TexasChic on November 22, 2005, at 19:54:10

>I'll always remember where I was when that happened.
>
> -T

You mean that half of you was an egg in your mom's ovaries? Me too! ;-) Or are you talking about 9/11??? I can't tell.

 

Re: Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS? » allisonross

Posted by Jakeman on November 22, 2005, at 23:09:13

In reply to Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS?, posted by allisonross on November 22, 2005, at 13:02:42

> The anniversary of President Kennedy's assasination.
>
> I think for my generation, that was the end of innocence.

I remember people standing on the street crying. That wouldn't happen today. Something was lost. I'm not sure what.

A few years ago I went to the museum in Dallas, that was once known as the Texas Book Depository. I stood where Oswald stood that day. It made the hair on my head stand up.. I trembled. I think because it brought back memories of long ago when something was lost forever.

Thanks for reminding me.

warm regards ~Jake

 

Re: Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS? » Jakeman

Posted by allisonross on November 23, 2005, at 5:15:09

In reply to Re: Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS? » allisonross, posted by Jakeman on November 22, 2005, at 23:09:13

> > The anniversary of President Kennedy's assasination.
> >
> > Hi, Jake.

I think for my generation, that was the end of innocence.
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> I remember people standing on the street crying. That wouldn't happen today. Something was lost. I'm not sure what.

I believe that. As a society, we have become so jaded and hard, and seemingly uncompassionate.

I was in my last period math class in high school, and we were all walkig around crying. I know that would never happen today.
>
> A few years ago I went to the museum in Dallas, that was once known as the Texas Book Depository. I stood where Oswald stood that day. It made the hair on my head stand up.. I trembled.

Isn't that amazing? I still cannot bear to watch footage of that day. It was the most traumatic thing we had ever experienced.

I think because it brought back memories of long ago when something was lost forever.

Oh, yes.

I also saw Ruby shoot Oswald. It was said that was the first live death on TV.
>
> Thanks for reminding me.
you are welcome! I find it fascinating that there was nothing in the media about it. I can never forget it.
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> warm regards ~Jake
And warm regards to you, Jake!

Ally

 

Re: Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS?

Posted by Declan on November 23, 2005, at 13:03:15

In reply to Re: Anybody Old Enough To Remember What Today IS? » Jakeman, posted by allisonross on November 23, 2005, at 5:15:09

What year was it anyway? Was it 1965? Was it 1962? I think I remember where I was when I heard, I certainly remember the mood. You wouldn't find a president in a backbrace unable to bend travelling round Dallas (it was Dallas?) in an open car these days.
I really enjoyed Gore Vidal's "Palimpsest". There's a lot of fascinating gossip in the book and some of it's about the Kennedy whitehouse.
Declan

 

9/11 stuff, may trigger » thuso

Posted by TexasChic on November 23, 2005, at 17:36:00

In reply to Re: I wasn't alive yet either... » TexasChic, posted by thuso on November 22, 2005, at 20:36:00

> >I'll always remember where I was when that happened.
> >
> > -T
>
> You mean that half of you was an egg in your mom's ovaries? Me too! ;-) Or are you talking about 9/11??? I can't tell.


I realized that was confusing right after I posted it. I meant I'll always remember where I was when 9/11 happened.

I know my story is nothing in comparison to the people who lived it, I just for some reason feel the need to share how it went down in my little insignificant life. I was at work, already at my desk and preparing for the work day. My coworker came in saying "Did you hear a plane flew into the World Trade Center?" (It had JUST happened) I was like "What?!?!" and immediately turned on my radio. Of course at first we thought it was an accident. We were discussing how such a thing could happen when we heard that the second plane hit. I remember saying, "Sh-h-h! Sh-h-h! Another one just hit!" We knew then we were being attacked. We sat around my little radio for the rest of the day, not even pretending to work, looking at each other in horror and disbelief as the rest of it happened. And then the horror stories began coming in. Being as it was chaos and everyone was taping live, I heard some things that I'll never forget, and won't repeat. And yes, we did get told to go back to work (albeit timidly). Some people are just dead inside.

-T

 

Re: 9/11 stuff, may trigger

Posted by Jakeman on November 23, 2005, at 22:48:01

In reply to 9/11 stuff, may trigger » thuso, posted by TexasChic on November 23, 2005, at 17:36:00

911 definitely shook me up. Big time. I don't know if we will ever really recover... it seems to me that extreme violence penetrates the soul.

Declan, the Kennedy assasian happened on Nov. 22 1963. Like many people alive at that time I have never forgotten that date.

The question that Allison brought up is something to ponder...putting politics aside, there was on outpouring of grief with the Kennedy assassination that I've never seen since. It doesn't happen these days. Somehow there's been a hardening of the public, I dunno, maybe people are less naive. Maybe with Kennedy we projected on him to be the young warrior king (Camelot was always mentioned in regard to his administration).
It clearly was a demarcation point in American society in various ways.

Brother Ted Kennedy is still in the Congress, very outspoken. Maybe keeping the dream alive?

warm regards ~Jake

allisonross

 

Re: 9/11 stuff, may trigger

Posted by Declan on November 24, 2005, at 13:33:09

In reply to Re: 9/11 stuff, may trigger, posted by Jakeman on November 23, 2005, at 22:48:01

The mood is very different. Less optimistic, more cynical. Doesw anyone remember 'west of the wall'? That song might have been around the same time. It may have been because I was 11 when it happened, but those times seem, in retrospect, to be selfconfident and romantic. Kennedy, like Bush, talked about freedom. The response these days is disengaged. Different world. My father had a book by someone or other "None Dare Call It Treason".
Declan


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