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Re: brain damage » lostforwards

Posted by lynn970 on October 8, 2005, at 16:25:52

In reply to Re: brain damage » lynn970, posted by lostforwards on October 8, 2005, at 12:58:31

Like a laser Beam?

I appear dumb in this area. Can a laser beam hurt you? I read the links that you put on your thread. Do common everyday people have these electronics?

 

Re: Freaked out by picture on site » lostforwards

Posted by Deneb on October 8, 2005, at 16:32:17

In reply to Re: Freaked out by picture on site, posted by lostforwards on October 8, 2005, at 16:13:50

> I think that picture comes with win XP. i think the person who runs the site ripped it off. not a big deal really.

PHEW! I just checked and you are correct. That picture does come with windows XP. I don't know why I thought it was a picture my sister took. OMGosh, what a relief! I thought I was seeing things.

Deneb

 

Re: brain damage » lynn970

Posted by lostforwards on October 8, 2005, at 16:41:08

In reply to Re: brain damage » lostforwards, posted by lynn970 on October 8, 2005, at 16:25:52

> Like a laser Beam?
>
> I appear dumb in this area. Can a laser beam hurt you? I read the links that you put on your thread. Do common everyday people have these electronics?

I don't really know much about directed energy weapons either.

It depends what type of laser beam. A CO2 laser would be dangerous. I think it can cut through walls.

The only type of energy weapon I know of that a common person could make is made from old microwave parts. They're sometimes called HERFs ( high energy radio frequency )and they're usually just for attacking electronics( shorting them out from a distance )

I have no idea what type of weapon was used on me. My guess is it was microwave based. If it was a laser they're be a burn mark through the surface of my skin on my forehead.


 

Re: brain damage » lostforwards

Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2005, at 18:51:30

In reply to Re: brain damage » lynn970, posted by lostforwards on October 8, 2005, at 16:41:08

Lostforwards, I think you need to give your pdoc a call again. What country do you live in? Not that it really matters. Fondly, Phillipa

 

Re: brain damage » lostforwards

Posted by ed_uk on October 9, 2005, at 16:35:44

In reply to Re: brain damage » lynn970, posted by lostforwards on October 8, 2005, at 16:41:08

Hi Lost,

I didn't know you were on Clozaril now. Have you been diagnosed with schizophrenia?

Regards

~Ed

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by lostforwards on October 9, 2005, at 16:46:53

In reply to Re: brain damage » lostforwards, posted by ed_uk on October 9, 2005, at 16:35:44

> Hi Lost,
>
> I didn't know you were on Clozaril now. Have you been diagnosed with schizophrenia?
>
> Regards
>
> ~Ed
>
As far as I know my diagnosis is still bipolar with psychotic symptoms. I don't think they want to haul out a new diagnosis. They haven't said anything to me about it.

I'm on clozaril now. I don't really think it's necessary. The voices were real and my fear ( prompting me to make a foil hat ) was warranted.

 

Re: brain damage » lostforwards

Posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 7:48:27

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by lostforwards on October 9, 2005, at 16:46:53

Hi Lost,

It does sound to me like these are symptoms of your illness. It sounds like you are totally convinced this has really happened, and I'm not completely writing that possibility off. Maybe it is real. But I'd say there's a 95% chance that it's your illness. Do you think it could be your illness?

I don't think you've answered anyone's concerns over whether you've spoken to your doctor recently. I'm worried about you. I keep coming back to this post, and though I don't know you, I still keep thinking about this person who may be suffering paranoias from an illness and may still be thinking they were real. That's a nightmare, and that's why I think you should check in with your doctor and be honest.

Let us know how you are.

~Autumn~

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 8:16:07

In reply to Re: brain damage » lostforwards, posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 7:48:27

> Hi Lost,
>
> It does sound to me like these are symptoms of your illness. It sounds like you are totally convinced this has really happened, and I'm not completely writing that possibility off. Maybe it is real. But I'd say there's a 95% chance that it's your illness. Do you think it could be your illness?
>
> I don't think you've answered anyone's concerns over whether you've spoken to your doctor recently. I'm worried about you. I keep coming back to this post, and though I don't know you, I still keep thinking about this person who may be suffering paranoias from an illness and may still be thinking they were real. That's a nightmare, and that's why I think you should check in with your doctor and be honest.
>
> Let us know how you are.
>
> ~Autumn~
I've talked to my doctor. He, of course, believes my claims of being a victim of mind control are false and that it's just my illness. I'm sure I'll be fine.

I posted some links to sites about mind control earlier.

http://www.c-a-t-c-h.ca http://wwww.eharassment.ca
www.raven1.net
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com
www.stopcovertwar.com

On a broader scale I suspect that the sites may be a part of a bigger conspiracy. That's dboubful though.

 

Re: brain damage » lostforwards

Posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 9:36:31

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 8:16:07

Glad to see you've talked with your doctor. If he believes it is the illness, how aggressively is he treating you? You did say you've gone up in your dose but have felt no effects from it. Is your doc talking about trying a new med? Does he understand the seriousness of what you're saying?

I just picture myself in your position and imagine how scary it must be to think people are trying to hurt me. I think it would be wise to treat yourself with meds as aggressively as you can right now to rule out the possibility that it's the illness and not real.

I did check out those sites you posted. It must confuse you further to see there are other people who say the same things as you. It all must be so confusing.

(((Lostforwards)))

~Autumn~

 

Re: brain damage » holymama

Posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 10:20:54

In reply to Re: brain damage » lostforwards, posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 9:36:31

> Glad to see you've talked with your doctor. If he believes it is the illness, how aggressively is he treating you? You did say you've gone up in your dose but have felt no effects from it. Is your doc talking about trying a new med? Does he understand the seriousness of what you're saying?
>
> I just picture myself in your position and imagine how scary it must be to think people are trying to hurt me. I think it would be wise to treat yourself with meds as aggressively as you can right now to rule out the possibility that it's the illness and not real.
>
> I did check out those sites you posted. It must confuse you further to see there are other people who say the same things as you. It all must be so confusing.
>
> (((Lostforwards)))
>
> ~Autumn~
Thanks for the support.

I think they're treating me pretty aggressively. The only change was a switch from Zyprexa to clozaril. I don't think anybody can understand the seriousness of the high tech crime I feel I am a victim of let alone believe me.

 

Re: brain damage » lostforwards

Posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 17:52:14

In reply to Re: brain damage » holymama, posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 10:20:54

I think you're right -- I think it would be pretty hard to convince your doctors or just about anyone else about what you're saying. I can't imagine how alone you must feel.

I'm still standing by my belief that this must be your illness. It's too much of a coincidence that you're taking antipsychotic meds for schizophrenia (or something like it)and you are also very paranoid about something. I know this situation must be so real for you, but can you also imagine that it very well might be you mind overreacting?

~Autumn~

 

Re: brain damage » holymama

Posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 18:27:34

In reply to Re: brain damage » lostforwards, posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 17:52:14

> I think you're right -- I think it would be pretty hard to convince your doctors or just about anyone else about what you're saying. I can't imagine how alone you must feel.
>
> I'm still standing by my belief that this must be your illness. It's too much of a coincidence that you're taking antipsychotic meds for schizophrenia (or something like it)and you are also very paranoid about something. I know this situation must be so real for you, but can you also imagine that it very well might be you mind overreacting?
>
> ~Autumn~
I think the experience was far too organized to be my mind over-reacting. I suppose it's possible that somehow I, and my mind, created a complex series of events. The only reason I'm on the meds is because the doctor recommended I get on them. And I didn't stop talking about mind control and directed energy weapons so they switched me to clozaril.

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 19:06:47

In reply to Re: brain damage » holymama, posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 18:27:34

But have you seen the movie Beautiful Mind? After watching that movie I understood that the mind CAN create something quite complex.

What do you mean when you said:
"I suppose it's possible that somehow I, and my mind, created a complex series of events."
??

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 19:15:51

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 19:06:47

> But have you seen the movie Beautiful Mind? After watching that movie I understood that the mind CAN create something quite complex.
>
> What do you mean when you said:
> "I suppose it's possible that somehow I, and my mind, created a complex series of events."
> ??

What I meant was I suppose it's possible that me and my mind created a complicated story that seems perfectly rational. I'm not dismissing that posibility though I dboubt it.

I've seen a beautiful mind. I don't know what to say though. I still think my experience was real and not a product of mental illness.

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 19:30:08

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 19:15:51

Well, I just have to say that if it is real, it's really ****ed up. I'm hoping that it isn't. It would be much easier to fix if it were just psychosis. I'd be hounding your doctor right now if I were you to get some treatment that works, just to make it go away if it IS illness.

~Autumn~

 

Re: brain damage » holymama

Posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 19:34:43

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 19:30:08

> Well, I just have to say that if it is real, it's really ****ed up. I'm hoping that it isn't. It would be much easier to fix if it were just psychosis. I'd be hounding your doctor right now if I were you to get some treatment that works, just to make it go away if it IS illness.
>
> ~Autumn~
>
>
Oh it's real and it is *****ed up. It'd be nice if it were mental illness. Those sites I listed earlier didn't emerge out of nothing.

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 19:49:08

In reply to Re: brain damage » holymama, posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 19:34:43

I think it's interesting too that those sites exist. It's interesting and scary stuff.

I was wondering if you have had problems with psychosis in the past? If you have, I'm just wondering why you would first assume this stuff is real and not assume instead that it's the illness?

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 20:15:19

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 19:49:08

I've never had severe psychosis. At worst I had minor delusions.

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 20:53:51

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by lostforwards on October 10, 2005, at 20:15:19

Good night lostforwards,
I've got to go to bed.
Good talking with you today.
I hope you can get some rest from your worries.

~Autumn~

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by Phillipa on October 10, 2005, at 21:11:22

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by holymama on October 10, 2005, at 20:53:51

Okay Lostforwards, I know these sites seem very real to you. But anyone can set up a website. It doesn't necessarily have to be real. You said you had TD in the past. So you do suffer from delusions, paranoia, voices, strange thoughts. I still say contact your pdoc again. Maybe the clozaril needs to be upped. Or maybe a short stay in the hospital just to be evaluated. Fondly, Phillipa

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by holymama on October 11, 2005, at 13:36:59

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by Phillipa on October 10, 2005, at 21:11:22

Hi Lostforwards,

It seems that everyone here agrees that you should contact your doctor. I think you need to be honest with yourself in that you have an illness with psychosis and your thoughts can get delusional sometimes. Thus, if everyone is giving you feedback that your thoughts are irrational, you need to trust that they are probably right. You need to learn to trust others' feedback if you want to find a way to be healthy. I know it's hard. I'm bipolar and I have had to let go of some of my independence and let my husband and family tell me when I start to go 'off'. I've learned that if I have a few designated people to 'trust', it relieves some of the burden of watching myself all of the time and wondering if I'm allright.

~Autumn~

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by lostforwards on October 13, 2005, at 5:44:37

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by holymama on October 11, 2005, at 13:36:59

> Hi Lostforwards,
>
> It seems that everyone here agrees that you should contact your doctor. I think you need to be honest with yourself in that you have an illness with psychosis and your thoughts can get delusional sometimes. Thus, if everyone is giving you feedback that your thoughts are irrational, you need to trust that they are probably right. You need to learn to trust others' feedback if you want to find a way to be healthy. I know it's hard. I'm bipolar and I have had to let go of some of my independence and let my husband and family tell me when I start to go 'off'. I've learned that if I have a few designated people to 'trust', it relieves some of the burden of watching myself all of the time and wondering if I'm allright.
>
> ~Autumn~
>
>

Perhaps you're all right. I still stand by the possibility of electronic harassment.

 

Re: brain damage » lostforwards

Posted by holymama on October 13, 2005, at 12:41:22

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by lostforwards on October 13, 2005, at 5:44:37

Lostforwards,

How are you doing? Do you notice that your med is doing anything for you yet? Have you gotten in touch with your pdoc recently?

I'm worried about you. Will you let us know how you're doing?

(((Lostforwards)))

~~Autumn~~

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by lostforwards on October 13, 2005, at 16:11:42

In reply to Re: brain damage » lostforwards, posted by holymama on October 13, 2005, at 12:41:22

> Lostforwards,
>
> How are you doing? Do you notice that your med is doing anything for you yet? Have you gotten in touch with your pdoc recently?
>
> I'm worried about you. Will you let us know how you're doing?
>
> (((Lostforwards)))
>
> ~~Autumn~~

actually I spoke with my pdoc earlier this week. he wants me stay on the same dose - 500mg - clozapine. Other than that, I'm doing fine.

 

Re: brain damage

Posted by holymama on October 13, 2005, at 19:17:39

In reply to Re: brain damage, posted by lostforwards on October 13, 2005, at 16:11:42

Glad to hear that you're taking care of yourself. I'll keep my fingers crossed that the clozapine works.

~~Autumn~~


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