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Posted by Deneb on July 29, 2005, at 21:27:36
Oh no, I just saw this 20/20 story on TV about a game some kids play called the suffocation game.
Now I feel like I want to play it too. This game is very much like how I want to die. Is there a "safe" way to play this game alone?
I've "played" it a few times, but never to the point of passing out.
Deneb
Posted by Deneb on July 29, 2005, at 21:45:15
In reply to Suffocation game *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on July 29, 2005, at 21:27:36
Oh no, I want to play the choking game now...it's going to torture me until I try it.
I don't want to die though. Aaahh, I know I shouldn't play the choking game, but I'm curious now.
Posted by Deneb on July 29, 2005, at 21:51:14
In reply to Re: Suffocation game *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on July 29, 2005, at 21:45:15
Oh no...is talking about the suffocation game permissible?
I'm sorry Dr. Bob, I just realized that maybe the suffocation game is self harm. This means that the suffocation game is a bad idea. Ok I won't play the suffocation game...sorry people for bring this up.
Deneb
Posted by spriggy on July 30, 2005, at 0:26:41
In reply to Re: Suffocation game *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on July 29, 2005, at 21:51:14
When I was in 5th grade, a few of my friends' and I would play this game (only a bit different).
Twice I passed out cold. I would hyperventilate, then hold my breath, and have one of my friends push hard on my chest.
I'll never forget waking up on the concrete and had blood all over my head!
And yet, I was dumb enough to do it again the next week at school- I passed out cold on the playground. I remember waking up and people were standing over me.
It's dangerous. Don't try it. It's not worth the risk.
Posted by Declan on July 30, 2005, at 3:01:46
In reply to Re: Suffocation game *Trigger*, posted by spriggy on July 30, 2005, at 0:26:41
My son's peer group have wasabi eating competitions that they film. Half a tube into your mouth and see what happens. Quite funny. Some are tougher than others.
But fighting for breath? They say drowning is peaceful, but I'm not convinced.
Declan
Posted by Deneb on July 30, 2005, at 8:59:45
In reply to Re: Suffocation game *Trigger*, posted by Declan on July 30, 2005, at 3:01:46
> My son's peer group have wasabi eating competitions that they film. Half a tube into your mouth and see what happens. Quite funny. Some are tougher than others.
> But fighting for breath? They say drowning is peaceful, but I'm not convinced.
> DeclanIt's not actually suffocation, it is something else. That is all I'm going to say about it because I don't want to get in trouble.
Deneb
Posted by JenStar on July 30, 2005, at 20:19:37
In reply to Suffocation game *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on July 29, 2005, at 21:27:36
Deneb,
there are people who (they claim) are able to obtain sexual gratification (orgasm) greater than normal after holding their breath or being "choked" for a while, if they do the choking during sex. Is this the kind of thing you're referring to?But it's EXTREMELY dangerous - no one knows exactly the moment when pleasure turns to death for an individual (esp.if there is alcohol, drugs or underlying health conditions involved), and people have died this way. And as a previous poster mentioned, you may suffer bleeding. If the brain is starved of oxygen too long, you can suffer permanent brain damage (think mental retardation or debilitating stroke.)
I like sex, but not like that! I don't think I'd ever be interested in choking or suffocating. To me it just doesn't sound fun AT ALL. It sounds scary and awful. Kids do a lot of "dumb" things -- like taking their parents' prescription drugs, playing with guns, stealing for kicks, etc.
Why do you think this is such an interest/trigger for you? Is there something in your history that makes this appealing to you in some way?
JenStar
Posted by alexandra_k on July 30, 2005, at 22:14:13
In reply to Re: Suffocation game *Trigger* » Deneb, posted by JenStar on July 30, 2005, at 20:19:37
Endorphins. I think the lack of oxygen gets the endorphins going.
Not sure whether it is just a guy thing or if it works for girls too.
I've heard of quite a few 'accidental deaths' where guys have accidently hung themself...
Posted by Deneb on July 31, 2005, at 9:49:12
In reply to Re: Suffocation game *Trigger* » Deneb, posted by JenStar on July 30, 2005, at 20:19:37
> Deneb,
> there are people who (they claim) are able to obtain sexual gratification (orgasm) greater than normal after holding their breath or being "choked" for a while, if they do the choking during sex. Is this the kind of thing you're referring to?I know about the type of asphyxiation you refer to above, but no, it wasn't what I was referring to. There have been kids who have died playing a game where they "choke" each other or themselves to experience a brief "high" as a result of blood rushing back to the head.
> Why do you think this is such an interest/trigger for you? Is there something in your history that makes this appealing to you in some way?
Hmmm...you are right, it *is* a trigger for me. Many things are triggers for me but I just don't know it yet. I'm not sure why it is a trigger...maybe because of my research into methods of death? The fact that some people find it pleasurable makes my desired method that much less scary and that much closer to reality. :-(
It comforts me to know that my method of choice is probably a relatively comfortable method.
Deneb
Posted by JenStar on July 31, 2005, at 10:27:33
In reply to Re: Suffocation game *Trigger* » JenStar, posted by Deneb on July 31, 2005, at 9:49:12
hi Deneb,
I've been curious about supposedly "fun" things in the past, like certain drugs (cocaine, E, etc.) But I never took any, mostly because I was too afraid of what the side effects might be. I have a slight heart murmur/arhythmia and I was always terrified that something might aggravate it or set it off. The same with other things -- in a weird way, it does sound "interesting" (the choking stuff), but my fear of death or ill effects will always stop me WAY before I even seriously think about maybe even trying something like that.But I think I *can* sort of understand the desire to try something dangerous. I never do it, but I think I can see why it's appealing to others.
I hope you don't try this, though! It's very dangerous; to me, it seems the risks are too high to justify the reward.
anyway, take care!
JenStar
Posted by Damos on July 31, 2005, at 16:57:56
In reply to Re: Suffocation game *Trigger* » JenStar, posted by alexandra_k on July 30, 2005, at 22:14:13
Michael Hutchence from INXS is one - in a Sydney hotel room.
Posted by Tamar on July 31, 2005, at 19:07:25
In reply to Re: Suffocation game *Trigger* » alexandra_k, posted by Damos on July 31, 2005, at 16:57:56
> Michael Hutchence from INXS is one - in a Sydney hotel room.
And also (though less well known) Stephen Milligan, a Conservative Member of Parliament in the UK. Died in 1994, wearing women's underwear. Had been tipped as a future Prime Minister, but it was not to be...
Posted by Declan on July 31, 2005, at 23:56:19
In reply to Re: Suffocation game *Trigger* » Deneb, posted by JenStar on July 30, 2005, at 20:19:37
That's how Michael Hutchence died here. Found hanging off the thing that closes the hotel door. You wouldn't think it was high enough. Endless human inventiveness.
Declan
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