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Posted by Racer on July 21, 2005, at 14:58:31
After hearing the news this morning, my first thought was NikkiT. She's told us that the last explosions created a fair bit of emotional turmoil for her, and I want to let her know that I send my best wishes for her continued strength in the face of these atrocities. I'm sure many of you would like to join me.
Love to you, Miss Nikki, from me.
Posted by partlycloudy on July 21, 2005, at 15:20:00
In reply to Offering affection for NikkiT, posted by Racer on July 21, 2005, at 14:58:31
Posted by Phillipa on July 21, 2005, at 15:30:00
In reply to Offering affection for NikkiT, posted by Racer on July 21, 2005, at 14:58:31
Yes, from me also. I heard about the new attack again at the health club. TV was on. I hope Ed's okay too. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by alexandra_k on July 21, 2005, at 16:14:22
In reply to Offering affection for NikkiT, posted by Racer on July 21, 2005, at 14:58:31
I just found out on this thread.
:-(
I'm sorry.
Offering you kindness, support, and an ear if you want to talk about it.
Posted by Nickengland on July 21, 2005, at 16:33:44
In reply to Re: Offering affection for NikkiT, posted by alexandra_k on July 21, 2005, at 16:14:22
I'm looking forward to leaving this bloody country soon...things are getting really depressing knowing that just 30mins up the road from where I live bombs are going off every 2 weeks.
Makes you think is this the end of the all the bombs...or just the beginning..
sorry for the depressing post :-(
I hope Nikki is ok too - there was no one hurt in London as far as I know.
Kind regards
Nick
Posted by Damos on July 21, 2005, at 16:45:59
In reply to Offering affection for NikkiT, posted by Racer on July 21, 2005, at 14:58:31
Hoping all our UK babble family are okay. Sending lots of kindness, support and love your way.
Posted by 10derHeart on July 21, 2005, at 16:46:45
In reply to Offering affection for NikkiT, posted by Racer on July 21, 2005, at 14:58:31
Posted by NikkiT2 on July 21, 2005, at 16:49:56
In reply to Re: Offering affection for NikkiT, posted by Nickengland on July 21, 2005, at 16:33:44
*hugs everyone tightly*
and Nick - I fear this is just the beginning. But we have done it before, we will do it again. We will survive, we will carry on as normal. We will fight them on the beaches.. Oops, thats someone elses speech now.. But I have to say, London tonight is a London Winston Curchill would be proud of
Nikki x
Posted by Damos on July 21, 2005, at 16:51:39
In reply to Re: Offering affection for NikkiT, posted by Nickengland on July 21, 2005, at 16:33:44
Can't begin to imagine what you're going through. Let's hope the end is near at hand. Take care ay.
Posted by Nickengland on July 21, 2005, at 17:43:34
In reply to Glad you're okay Nick, posted by Damos on July 21, 2005, at 16:51:39
Thanks for the kind encorouging words Damos :-)
Nikki - That sounds brillant that London is alive and kicking right where it all happened!! Excellent news! (I'm 30mins drive from London, just outside of it in xxx)
To be honest I was getting abit down with turning on the t.v and radio.. having it constantly in my face so to speak lol - then pick up newspaper and bam!..still on the front page from the previous 2 weeks..
I must be watching the news to much hey?!
Well I felt fed up for about 15mins - and 15mins too long. I wont let that happen again if I can help it :-)
Kind regards
Nick
Posted by Nikkit2 on July 22, 2005, at 4:02:50
In reply to Re: Glad you're okay Nick, posted by Nickengland on July 21, 2005, at 17:43:34
Its likely we're going to be heading into Essex later this year to live.. My possible new job is there and so we'll probably move there, as we both want out of London so we can buy a bigger place and have a garden etc!
My head is psinning today.. swinging from a strange "high" to low.. And quite tearful.. but also determined to not let them get me down..
Oh, and hung over too which isn't helping, with about 3 hours sleep from bad dreams and police helicopters hovering overhead half the night..
Hoping I can take this afternoon off work!
nikki xx
Posted by Nickengland on July 22, 2005, at 15:17:14
In reply to Re: Glad you're okay Nick » Nickengland, posted by Nikkit2 on July 22, 2005, at 4:02:50
Moving to Essex? - Well ones things for sure...your stress levels will certainly decrease :-)
I'd rather not post the town I live in xxx (I've already posted my picture up on here lol) but if you wanted to talk about any places in Essex your thinking of moving to i.e good/bad areas, feel free to babblemail me...
Funnily enough i'm moving xxx soon myself, going abit further afield - to Australia!
I hope your mood has leveled off abit now that things have sunk in alittle more...but I guess what with all the helicopters etc.. Well, I can only imagine the extra stress you must have in the heart of it all..
Needless to say the police shooting that man dead today! One thing after another or what?!
Kind regards
Nick
Posted by Racer on July 23, 2005, at 4:19:09
In reply to Re: Glad you're okay Nick » Nikkit2, posted by Nickengland on July 22, 2005, at 15:17:14
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> Funnily enough i'm moving out of Essex soon myself, going abit further afield - to Australia!
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>> NickAs it happens...
We think about moving to Oz, too, where my husband is from. We both even agree on the Melbourne area. I wanna hear about this -- where, when, why?
Have a wonderful time there -- and I envy you!
Posted by Nickengland on July 23, 2005, at 6:33:42
In reply to Re: Glad you're okay Nick » Nickengland, posted by Racer on July 23, 2005, at 4:19:09
Hi Racer :-)
Where - Either Sydney or Perth...im still finalising everything on the exact location. But out of Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane and Perth....I've narrowed it down to either Sydney or Perth. That was hard enough I can tell you! Now you got methinking about Melbourne again lol Darwin would just be too hot. As for everywhere else, no my mind goes into overdrive thinking about the possiblities.
Weather is a big part of it for me. To be honest I think i'll go with Perth at least start there anyway and hope I love there. 24 hour flight from England, I can only do so much planning, but really I won't know for sure until I get there...I do love a challenge though lol.
When? Within 6months. Hoefully within 3 or 4. Definately within 6 months though.
Why? Very good Question! Many many reasons. Basically, I lived abroad before when I was 20. It was one the best things i've done with my life about learning about myself. I have always loved Australia and Australian people. Always wanted to live there. Its been on my mind since I was about 14/15 years old. When I lived abroad before I wanted to go Australia, but ended up going to the Canary Islands.
Now I've got the money to go to Australia. The oppurtunity has arisen! I'm nearly 23 and i'm not estabilished in any kind of career (due to illness) At the same I can't see the wood from the tree where I am now to know what I want out of life or how to get it. All I know is for me to go to Australia, is to do something I love and have always wanted to do. From there on I strongly believe everything else will hopefully full into place.
LOL believe it or not I actually do not like England very much at all. (now that could be a long post on reasons why!) In brief we only have 3 months of any weather at all that you can call "ahh, its a nice day today?" and even they aren't so great. The peoples friendlyness "in general" you often find relects the colour of the sky - grey, boring and depressing etc.. Its far too over crowded here. 60 million people on a tiny island. Honestly just not enough space....whereas in Australia 20 million people and 35 time bigger than the uk. Im no good at maths but thats quite a difference right? lol *I won't moan anymore about England because it would only sound more depressing...and this is only my view of course and yeah I guess it isnt really that bad as theres far worse place but I also nkow that in genral theres better places too ;-)*
I love the Australian culture too...of course in some respects Aussies are pretty similar to us...but there way more lad back and relaxed...which is more like the type of person I am. I think i'd find myself a whole lot more suited to the Australian life style than I would the English. Only one way to find out...
OH and you forgot.. How? The only way I can get over there is on a working holiday visa. At least this way I can work. Used to be you could only stay for up to 1 year on this...but now its 2 years. Love to see whatever oppurtunities will happen in the future when i'm out there... Employment sponsership for example. I'm currently reseaching as much as I can so if all goess well I can pusue avenues to stay out there long term. I have some distant relatives in Adelaide too, very old though, and pretty distant lol.
Hey and I envy you..for one you don't live in England! Do you live in the States?
Kind regards
Nick
Posted by Racer on July 23, 2005, at 15:08:38
In reply to Re: Glad you're okay Nick, posted by Nickengland on July 23, 2005, at 6:33:42
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> I love the Australian culture too...of course in some respects Aussies are pretty similar to us...How can you say that? My husband swears up and down he has NOTHING in common with those English who eat *marmite* instead of proper Vegemite! {shudder} And you think the two nations have anything in common?
(Couldn't resist!)
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> OH and you forgot.. How? The only way I can get over there is on a working holiday visa. At least this way I can work. Used to be you could only stay for up to 1 year on this...but now its 2 years. Love to see whatever oppurtunities will happen in the future when i'm out there... Employment sponsership for example. I'm currently reseaching as much as I can so if all goess well I can pusue avenues to stay out there long term. I have some distant relatives in Adelaide too, very old though, and pretty distant lol.
>Ah. I didn't know that was the only way, especially since I never had to deal with that. I was there taking care of my ex's kids, while he worked. My husband, being a citizen, doesn't have to worry about that, either...
> Hey and I envy you..for one you don't live in England! Do you live in the States?
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> Kind regards
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> Nick
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I live in California -- in Silicon Valley. In fact, I live about 45 miles from my Home Town of San Francisco. My, haven't I gone far in life? ;-)It's not so bad, but I like small towns. I'm just not a City Girl anymore, you know?
Enjoy your move, Nick, and do keep us up to date. After all, you can't enjoy my envy if you don't keep me informed, right?
Posted by Phillipa on July 23, 2005, at 19:02:40
In reply to The main difference... » Nickengland, posted by Racer on July 23, 2005, at 15:08:38
Geez Nick, you're young and it may make a difference, but you sound like I did when I wanted to leave Greenville NC and move where I am to Emerald Isle. I said I wanted to be able to walk the beach before I can't anymore. So we did move and nothing has gone right. At first we did walk the beach everyday. But I aged right before my eyes from the sun. And now Greg can't find a job. And nursing is another thing. I'd like to try again and now we're thinking of Charlotte NC big city and my youngest live there. But are we being delusional again thinking the grass is greener on the other side? Will he really be able to find a job and will I really be able to nurse without refresher course and med/surg on floor. My back and nerves couldn't take it. And then the Hospitals tell me I'd have to work full time before parttime or as needed. Does that make sense with the nursing shortage. Even the Board of Nursing said it's a catch 22 as they don't require this training since my license is current. But as they said hospitals can set their own policies. I just don't know it sounds so perfect in my head. I'm getting confused as they're are certainly no guarantees. All sorts of feedback from my son. Don't go there you always move. But does he visit me or invite us to visit only two hours away? No. My head is swimming can't concentrate to even read so how can I make such a life altering decision? I'm 59 not 23. This is it. I need a therapist to talk to about this but none in the area. Long rant, I'm sorry. Don't want to rain on what sounds like something really exciting for you and getting out of London is a much safer decision to make. I think you'll love it there. Yeah I really do. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Racer on July 24, 2005, at 0:34:30
In reply to Re: The main difference..., posted by Phillipa on July 23, 2005, at 19:02:40
I wanted to warn you that this was a new topic, so you wouldn't get conversational whiplash.
Have you considered looking for part time nursing work OUTSIDE of hospitals? I know that my old blood bank hired nurses for the apharesis department, and some doctors' offices have actual nurses. Or maybe look into becoming a nurse practitioner? Or not.
Honestly, with the nursing shortage, especially with the nursing unions so strong (at least on this coast), you'd think that hospitals would LOVE to get some part timers...
Good luck.
Posted by Nickengland on July 24, 2005, at 6:28:38
In reply to The main difference... » Nickengland, posted by Racer on July 23, 2005, at 15:08:38
>How can you say that? My husband swears up and down he has NOTHING in common with those English who eat *marmite* instead of proper Vegemite! {shudder} And you think the two nations have anything in common?
(Couldn't resist!)
LOL OK You got me there! ...The Marmite and Vegemite is a very real difference lol But what if I told you I didn't like marmite ;-)
No you are right and of course with an Australian husband your're in a far better situation than me to know that the two Nations are very different indeed. Its this difference that I love so much though that attracts me to Australia ...the far more laid back attitude the "no worries" you know? (compared to our *up tight reserved cliche ;-) Its really weird but i've met quite afew Aussies here in England and when I lived in xxx and I don't know how to explain it, but I just felt I had more of an understanding of Australians - I can relate to them...more so than I can to English people in some respects you know? Of course i'll always be british..but then I have some Irish Republic blood in me to lol
Would me and your Husband agree on this though?...us Brits and Aussies who drive on the left side of the road, definately drive on the *right* side of the road ;-)
>Ah. I didn't know that was the only way, especially since I never had to deal with that. I was there taking care of my ex's kids, while he worked. My husband, being a citizen, doesn't have to worry about that, either...
Well there are other ways (different types of visas) but for my age and circumstances this would be the best route really. So whereabouts is your Husband from in Oz?..Has he ever been to Perth?
>I live in California -- in Silicon Valley. In fact, I live about 45 miles from my Home Town of San Francisco. My, haven't I gone far in life? ;-)
>It's not so bad, but I like small towns. I'm just not a City Girl anymore, you know?
We have a mutual envy then definately....If for whatever reason I couldn't go to Austalia I would love to live in America (its just really hard for me to find an angle on how to get there and work) Anyway, my first choice would be California!...2nd choice Florida (but ive already been there) Out of all the countries ive been to, America was the Best one :-)
I will do - keep you up-dated..( i'll try hard not to rub it in your face too much ;-) )
Posted by Nickengland on July 24, 2005, at 7:23:17
In reply to Re: The main difference..., posted by Phillipa on July 23, 2005, at 19:02:40
Ahhh Phillipa so sorry to hear that things havent exactly *panned out* how you so much much wanted them to...
And thats very true about what you say "is the grass always greener on the other side?" The answer to that is sometimes is not. Its just sometimes a diffferent shade of green. The thing is, when your thinking of making a life altering disicion, I think you have to ask yourself, why are you thinking that in the first place? For example, look at the side of the grass your on now...and if you not exactly happy with it - this probably the reason why your looking to better it. The important thing is I have found, is to know why and how you want to make it better. Weigh up the Pro's and Con's so to speak and think about as much as you can about the end result of the desicion you make..i.e where exactly is it going to take you and is it going to be any better than where you are now? (I know it can drive you crazy racking your brains trying to find the answers to these questions)
I think what Racer suggested was a very good idea with regards to part-time nursing...perhaps even outside of mental health. Its surely not impossible I would of thought. And maybe just what the doctor ordered (no pun intended lol) as you say your 59 years old and you dont want to burn yourself out completely with your nerves and back working full-time. Hey - you could be even think about retirement soon...relaxing and part-time work to keep you busy and extra income.. (sorry I didn't mean to make you feel old by mentioning retirement..I wish I could retire though!)
As for me I often wonder about the grass being greener on the other side. I look at what I have now though and i'm really not happy with it....I mean i'm not going forward at all and therefore, for the grass to be greener on the other side - perhaps it won't...but I cannot continue like this and its the best way I can see now with regards to changing it.
Just a little taster of what I have now -Havent worked in more or less a year (I need a job big-time) I have no soical life so to speak. (all my old friends love to party...not such a bad thing, but bad that they and alot of people around this area live in a 'drug culture' of cocaine, weed and ecstacy..this is what their 'social life is based upon...I'm taking medication which is keeping me well now and I don't want to be apart of the other kinds of medications they use. Also I live with my parents - who constantly argue..the atmosphere is not a nice 'warm loving family home' (its hell sometimes) And I havent had a girl friend in over 2 years! I feel trapped where I am right now. But I know a way out and have thought of the consequences so much that if i thought anymore about it my head would spin off lol
If it wasn't for Australia then Id get myself into some kind of career, but I just can't see a sutable direction or angle from where I am now to get the ball rolling for me to do that. I'm hoping Australia will give me the break I need to clear the cob webs, be independent and take control of things. (easier said than done!) lol
You know the first job im going to do in Australia? Fruit picking! Theraputic, physical hard work to build me up for 3 months lol. Just so happens after doing this i'll then be entitled to extend my visa making it a total of 2 years So that will be outside the mian cities in regional Australia, then i'll be ready to venture into the city and work in perhaps a bar or cafe...work on my social skills, onwards and upwards from there hopefully. I have to do this by myself, i'm moving there alone and sometimes it does feel alittle daunting....but i'm going to relish the challenge and know that at least im going forward...
Look at your nursing like this in a similar way...if you can plan and think you could do better in Charlotte NC than you can where you at the moment....then by all means move to Charlotte NC. But if what you can get in Charlotte NC - you could already have where you are right now in Emerald Isle...maybe you dont have to go through all the extra stress of moving? Weigh up the Pro's and Con's, but I know its very hard to reach such a decision.
Simple problems can sometimes have complex answers.
Complex problems can sometimes have simple answers.
Kind regards
Nick
Posted by Phillipa on July 24, 2005, at 12:20:47
In reply to Re: The main difference... » Phillipa, posted by Nickengland on July 24, 2005, at 7:23:17
Racer I only have a Diploma Degree. Practition Rn requires many more years education. And Nick, unfortunately since this is a beach community everyone has to travel far for medical care. That's the problem would moving be another mistake? And retirement, hehehe, I don't have any retirement as I always changed jobs when salary went up. Nursing is a profession where you make more money if you always switch jobs. Problem is I wasn't thinking longterm when I did all this. I'll never have retirement except SSRI and we know what that pays. And my husband is only 45 and can't find a job. I need a therapist to help me sort this all out. Only problem there again is that there are none here l in Moorehead a half hour away. Too many decisions. And I just received a correspondence back from someone who contacted me a few months ago from this forum about lymes disease which is chronic. The info she sent back is scarey as all my problems are probably related to this. One of the doctors downloaded says ALS,MS, CFS, Fibro, depression/anxiety are all really lymes. And I'm going to Washington DC to Taste and Smell Center as i've lost this too. Bringing all lymes info as it could be related to this too. Maybe I can't work realistically. I don't know. But what I do know is that I need all of you for support as it seems as if my problems never end. I try and stay positive but it's hard. Thanks again Guys. Any other suggestions my babble is always on and Nick I think you have my E-mail address. Love Phillipa
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