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Posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 21:08:29
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers » ed_uk, posted by alexandra_k on January 2, 2005, at 21:01:50
>I have made many stuff ups and false assumptions about peoples gender on the boards so don't take it personal.
Hi!!!!
Don't worry :-) I wasn't upset or anything!
Ed.
Posted by (-:alexandra_k:-) on January 2, 2005, at 21:09:58
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers » alexandra_k, posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 21:08:29
I just never thought of ed as 'Ed'. thought of it as short for 'education' or something. Funny aye..
Posted by TofuEmmy on January 2, 2005, at 21:12:39
In reply to GLBTQ Babblers, posted by deirdrehbrt on January 2, 2005, at 18:22:48
I'm TofuEmmy and I'm a bisexual. ("Hi Emmy!!")
Being bi is lonely and a pain in the neck. For instance, men always assumes this will lead to a 3-some...gggrrrr! I'm bi, not an acrobat.
I would much prefer to be a lesbian or straight woman. At least I'd have a party to go to, a dress code to follow, better T shirt sayings, bumper stickers,....etc.
emmy
Posted by deirdrehbrt on January 2, 2005, at 21:15:04
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers » alexandra_k, posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 21:08:29
I hope that this proves to be a positive experience in your life. Babblers have always shown themselves to be people of the highest caliber and nothing if not kind. I'm glad if you have found the freedom to be open and honest now.
Dee
Posted by gardenergirl on January 2, 2005, at 21:19:38
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers, posted by TofuEmmy on January 2, 2005, at 21:12:39
Just couldn't resist. :)
gg
Posted by alexandra_k on January 2, 2005, at 21:22:09
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers, posted by TofuEmmy on January 2, 2005, at 21:12:39
Yeah I notice that there is a lot less stigma about lesbians or bi females than there is about guys. Mostly (I think) because straight guys tend to think 'threesome' - but by that they never seem to mean two guys :-)
Posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 21:29:07
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers, posted by TofuEmmy on January 2, 2005, at 21:12:39
To Alexandra...
My real name is Edward! Don't worry about your little mistake :-) It was a very little mistake.
To Dee...
Thank you for starting this thread, I think it was a good idea.
To Ghost...
Thank you for your welcome!
To TofuEmmy...
Being gay can be lonely too. I tend to like straight men- provided that they're nice of course! It can be very lonely to see them with their girlfriends/wives :-( Grrr!
Ed.
Posted by TofuEmmy on January 2, 2005, at 21:46:37
In reply to Hi Emmy » TofuEmmy, posted by gardenergirl on January 2, 2005, at 21:19:38
GG - you are my favorite gooberhead.
Posted by TofuEmmy on January 2, 2005, at 22:16:36
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers... To a lot of people, posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 21:29:07
Yes, being a gay male must be lonely. Guys face so much more stigma, at least here I know they do. I assume it's the same there.
And being attracted to straight guys! Jeepers, what a major dragolla. And perhaps you might have noticed it can be,...just a smidge...self- injurious? What heartache. Owie.
em
Posted by alexandra_k on January 2, 2005, at 22:32:53
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers... To a lot of people » ed_uk, posted by TofuEmmy on January 2, 2005, at 22:16:36
Is it that you are attracted to people who are straight or that you are attracted to people who suitably fit the masculine / feminine stereotypes and it just happens to be the case that most of them are straight?
I just wonder because I know that personally I am more attracted to fairly feminine females (if I were to go there again). Not because they are straight, but it just happens that most of them are. Do you guys get me?
Posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 22:43:36
In reply to Attraction to straight people, posted by alexandra_k on January 2, 2005, at 22:32:53
Hello!
I get you.
What I meant was that I tend not to be attracted to men who are excessively feminine. If I *was* sexually attracted to very feminine people then I'd be hetero!
Since most men are straight it's difficult *not* to be attracted to at least some of them.
Ed.
Posted by alexandra_k on January 2, 2005, at 22:50:11
In reply to Re: Attraction to straight people, posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 22:43:36
Yeah, ok. That was what I thought you meant.
That would be different than, say, constantly falling for people who were unavailable IN VIRTUE of their unavailability.
Just wanted to check that it was the former :-)
Posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 22:54:32
In reply to Re: Attraction to straight people » ed_uk, posted by alexandra_k on January 2, 2005, at 22:50:11
Hello!
>Yeah, ok.
You didn't think I was being sarcastic did you? I was trying to make a joke- maybe it didn't sound right :-)
>That would be different than, say, constantly falling for people who were unavailable IN VIRTUE of their unavailability.
Well, I have been known to do that. I suppose unavailable people are safer in a way because I'm a bit scared of relationships.
Ed.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 2, 2005, at 23:14:14
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers, posted by TofuEmmy on January 2, 2005, at 21:12:39
You have more people to date :)
> I'm TofuEmmy and I'm a bisexual. ("Hi Emmy!!")
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> Being bi is lonely and a pain in the neck. For instance, men always assumes this will lead to a 3-some...gggrrrr! I'm bi, not an acrobat.
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> I would much prefer to be a lesbian or straight woman. At least I'd have a party to go to, a dress code to follow, better T shirt sayings, bumper stickers,....etc.
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> emmy
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Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 2, 2005, at 23:15:13
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers » Shortelise, posted by ghost on January 2, 2005, at 19:40:43
Wow I had no clue....thanks I was gonna skip this thread
> gay lesbian bisexual transgendered and questioning (or just plain "queer," depending on who you ask).
Posted by TofuEmmy on January 2, 2005, at 23:50:07
In reply to Attraction to straight people, posted by alexandra_k on January 2, 2005, at 22:32:53
I'm not sure if I was misunderstood. I was offering empathy to Ed in what I thought was his attraction to unattainable straight guys. I'm not romantically interested in straight women.
I think there is some differential to be made between...hmmm...picking terms at whim here...."attraction", and "romantic interest". I might find some young college coed attractive, but not in a million years would I consider her a romantic interest. The same can be said for the peer-aged straight women I meet. Many are attractive...but gratefully, I've never found any of them romantically interesting. No sparks. Phew.
When I have dated women, it was usually bi women cuz they "get me" better.
But by far, my longest relationships have been with men. Who knows what's next. (insert cliffhanger music here)
em
Posted by NikkiT2 on January 3, 2005, at 6:29:04
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers... To a lot of people, posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 21:29:07
OK.. I've never said this here..
I'm Bi too!
Well, kinda.. In that, I am married to a man in a completely monogamous relationship.. but have had flings with women in the past, and am attracted to women (though, more to men than women)
I am of the opinion Bi is the natural state of things.. But you fancy who ever you fancy.. I can't see why people even care who someone else is sleeping with truth be told.. Why on earth does it bother people if people sleep with someone of their own sex?! Its just something I don't *get*.
*g* Quite a start to the new year!!
Nikki xx
Posted by bandoman on January 3, 2005, at 11:56:10
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers... To a lot of people, posted by NikkiT2 on January 3, 2005, at 6:29:04
As an individual who was fatherless, bipolar and sexually abused as a child I found it very difficult to find my proper place (meaning whatever god intended me to be) in the world.
Living as a streetkid you are exposed to a lot of rather wierd things that do not fit any description. I explored and tested the waters while looking for love and acceptance. Eventually friendship and love overwhelmed me and made me a content heterosexual man. I find that it fits me well more and more each and every day.
Posted by alexandra_k on January 3, 2005, at 16:26:01
In reply to Re: Attraction to straight people » alexandra_k, posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 22:54:32
> Well, I have been known to do that. I suppose unavailable people are safer in a way because I'm a bit scared of relationships.
Yeah... Ditto.
Posted by Toph on January 3, 2005, at 17:07:25
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers... To a lot of people, posted by bandoman on January 3, 2005, at 11:56:10
> Living as a streetkid you are exposed to a lot of rather wierd things that do not fit any description. I explored and tested the waters while looking for love and acceptance. Eventually friendship and love overwhelmed me and made me a content heterosexual man. I find that it fits me well more and more each and every day.
>
Before I had intercourse with a woman a man drugged me and had sex with me when I was a freshman in college. I paniced and had sex with the first female that would have me. Then after studying in France I stayed to avoid going to Vietnam. I had no money so I sold myself for a shower, a warm bed and a meal. It seemed like a good deal at the time. In graduate school, my best friend so impressed me with his impeccable values and honesty. I admired and loved him. We went out to dinner together after graduating and he told me he was gay. It was one of the biggest compliments of my life that he shared this knowing I would accept him as he is. For 30 years I've been exclusively heterosexual but keenly aware of my bisexual past.Toph
Posted by ed_uk on January 3, 2005, at 22:31:02
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers... To a lot of people, posted by Toph on January 3, 2005, at 17:07:25
Hello :-)
I'm sorry to hear that you've had some very difficult experiences in your life.
>For 30 years I've been exclusively heterosexual but keenly aware of my bisexual past.
Were you ever really attracted to men apart from your best friend?
Regards,
Ed.
Posted by ed_uk on January 3, 2005, at 22:32:06
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers... To a lot of people, posted by Toph on January 3, 2005, at 17:07:25
Posted by wheeler on January 4, 2005, at 7:48:12
In reply to There has to be some more gay ppl out there! (nm), posted by ed_uk on January 3, 2005, at 22:32:06
Of course there are, we're everywhere!!!!
I don't post often so I didn't want to 'intrude' on your thread, but I realized it is important for everyone to be counted. And more importantly for everyone to feel that they're not alone.
Posted by TofuEmmy on January 4, 2005, at 9:18:37
In reply to Re: There has to be some more gay ppl out there!, posted by wheeler on January 4, 2005, at 7:48:12
Hi Wheeler!! There is no such thing as intruding! I've been on and off Babble for years and jump in or not using a variety of whimsical rules. Please never hesitate join in. New posters are the best part of Babble.
Emmy aka TofuButt
Posted by Toph on January 4, 2005, at 9:48:40
In reply to Re: GLBTQ Babblers... » Toph, posted by ed_uk on January 3, 2005, at 22:31:02
>
> Were you ever really attracted to men apart from your best friend?
>I don't think so, Ed. I'm mostly competitive with men. Most of my friends are women. Male physiques don't excite me like women's do. But are any of us professed heterosexual men truely honest about this?
Toph
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