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Posted by Bobby on November 23, 2004, at 23:18:52
...why did we stop?
Posted by TofuEmmy on November 23, 2004, at 23:18:53
In reply to If we evolved..., posted by Bobby on November 23, 2004, at 7:30:37
We didn't stop! Cuz *sometimes* when my ex visits, he actually puts the toilet seat back down!!
emmy
Posted by Bobby on November 23, 2004, at 23:18:53
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by TofuEmmy on November 23, 2004, at 10:39:14
Posted by Cass on November 23, 2004, at 23:18:53
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by TofuEmmy on November 23, 2004, at 10:39:14
Hi Bobby,
I'm curious why you think we have stopped evolving.
Posted by Bobby on November 23, 2004, at 23:18:54
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by Cass on November 23, 2004, at 12:10:54
Maybe I watch the news too much.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 23, 2004, at 23:18:54
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by Bobby on November 23, 2004, at 14:29:49
I think it is just that evolution is sooooooooooo verrrrrrrrry slllllllllow so that we wouldn't notice any evolution in several human lifetimes.
It is also hard to figure the nature / nurture componant. So that humans are getting progressively taller, for example, though that may have more to do with better nutrition (in general) rather than evolution of genes.
There also isn't such a fight for existence as there once was. I mean, we don't compete for scarce resources quite the way we used to. And then medical advances deal with conditions that would have been selected against in the past.
Posted by slinky on November 24, 2004, at 5:27:27
In reply to If we evolved..., posted by Bobby on November 23, 2004, at 7:30:37
Can you hear my effervescence
Posted by AdaGrace on November 24, 2004, at 6:29:26
In reply to If we evolved..., posted by Bobby on November 23, 2004, at 7:30:37
after a certain period of time, we start to like our imperfections we see in each other and realize that if perfection is gained, we would no longer need each other to satisfy our desires, wants, and needs and then where would we be? A-sexual beings with perfect bodies, that are no longer attractive to each other, but simply a perfect form for functionality, highly intelligent individuals who no longer compete..
Oh what the heck, I am so full of shyte this morning........I stink.....I'm depressed, and I have to go to work.
Life sucks.........let's all evolve and end this dance of life so we can get on with the next one.
Posted by Bobby on November 24, 2004, at 7:40:04
In reply to I'm definately dissolving » Bobby, posted by slinky on November 24, 2004, at 5:27:27
...then why are there still monkeys? Dearest Dreamer, how are you? I got your test e-mail--it seems to work well. Tomorrow is Thanksgiving here in the U.S. It celebrates the only peaceful time we've had with the Indians. Check with your mailman for a letter soon. What meds are you on today? They seem to change from day to day : ).
Take care and don't be a stranger.
Thou art in my thoughts,
B
Posted by sunny10 on November 24, 2004, at 12:40:34
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by alexandra_k on November 23, 2004, at 15:56:00
if nutrition was actually BETTER, we'd only be getting taller- not taller and FATTER, too !!
Maybe there's another big freeze coming and we'll need the body fat???
Posted by alexandra_k on November 24, 2004, at 15:16:40
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by sunny10 on November 24, 2004, at 12:40:34
Heh heh. We never used to get foods that were so rich in fats and sugars without lots of hard work. Now it is just too easy. I think that global warming means it is getting hotter, though I guess we would be fairly well prepared for an ice age :-)
I remember one of my psych lecturers used to keep on that 'it is not that we are evolving towards perfection... it is not so much that things are selected for, rather it is elimination of the unsuccessfull'. So we are the successes because we are still here. Noses like mine aren't around because they are perfect, they are around because they aren't bad enough to result in our elimination.
Posted by Susan47 on November 24, 2004, at 22:33:22
In reply to Re: Because » Bobby, posted by AdaGrace on November 24, 2004, at 6:29:26
Why d'you stink? Don't you shower or bathe?
Posted by 64bowtie on November 25, 2004, at 0:25:23
In reply to If we evolved..., posted by Bobby on November 23, 2004, at 7:30:37
> ...why did we stop?
<<< Evolution is a simple process. There is nothing mystical and magical about evolving. We do it a little bit everyday.
Rod
Posted by Poetess on November 25, 2004, at 4:31:59
In reply to Re: If we evolved... [We evolve every day...] » Bobby, posted by 64bowtie on November 24, 2004, at 22:13:52
I'm not sure we've stopped. Sometimes I feel like we're going backwards.
Anyone remember that band Devo? Devo was short for "de-evolution". Feels to me like "civilization" makes everyone more stessed. To me, needing to work at a job that you hate or a job that isn't fulfilling and your neighbors not talking to you because they are so overwhelmed with their own lives seem like a backwards process...not enough time for fun anymore.
Poetess
> > ...why did we stop?
Posted by AdaGrace on November 25, 2004, at 6:32:39
In reply to Re: Because: AG, posted by Susan47 on November 24, 2004, at 22:33:22
Posted by sunny10 on November 25, 2004, at 11:20:59
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by Poetess on November 25, 2004, at 4:31:59
oh, I AGREE.... Humans weren't built to stick in office buildings for ten hours a day !!!!
Posted by Jai Narayan on November 25, 2004, at 13:17:15
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by sunny10 on November 25, 2004, at 11:20:59
why still an "eye for an eye"?
Why do my taxes pay for war?
why do we still break some of the 10 commandments:
thou shall not kill?
Why are we destroying the earth with pollution?Are we evolving ourselves right out of life?
Jai, scratching her head and wondering
Posted by sunny10 on November 25, 2004, at 14:27:27
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by Jai Narayan on November 25, 2004, at 13:17:15
apparently the rich have decided that more money is more important than human lives...
It is now money that is evolving...taking us all over with wars, et cetera which are SAID to be fought over religious or politicals beliefs.
It is only who has vs who wants on every warfront...
and we poor people are used as weapons against the other rich guys poor people.Let's see how many CEO's sons get drafted (yeah, right!) if they reinstate the US draft....
Posted by Jai Narayan on November 25, 2004, at 17:46:13
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by sunny10 on November 25, 2004, at 14:27:27
I like the idea of money evolving....
It seems to have a life of it's own.
Jai
I hope this is not too PBC a topic.
I feel like a woman on the run in PB these days.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 25, 2004, at 18:01:36
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by Jai Narayan on November 25, 2004, at 17:46:13
Some theorists say that not only do genes evolve; memes also evolve. Memes are 'good tricks' in the words of Daniel Dennett. They are such tricks as screwdrivers and religion and language. We don't need to reinvent the wheel in our lifetime, we are taught of the products of social and cultural evolution when we are children.
Memes are ideas that are transmitted down through the generations, we pass them on to our children as we pass our genes on to them.
Just something to think about...
Posted by trucker on November 25, 2004, at 20:43:54
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by Jai Narayan on November 25, 2004, at 13:17:15
it's called "free will" and no we didn't evolve!!! we never were nor will we be monkeys.. that is a lie from the pit.. evolution!!!
trucker
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////> why still an "eye for an eye"?
> Why do my taxes pay for war?
> why do we still break some of the 10 commandments:
> thou shall not kill?
> Why are we destroying the earth with pollution?
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> Are we evolving ourselves right out of life?
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> Jai, scratching her head and wondering
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Posted by Gabbix2 on November 25, 2004, at 21:16:23
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by trucker on November 25, 2004, at 20:43:54
> it's called "free will" and no we didn't evolve!!!
we never were nor will we be monkeys.. that is a lie from the pit.. evolution!!!
>
It would not be considered it polite for me to call your beliefs lies, please accord others the same respect.
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 25, 2004, at 22:17:57
In reply to If we evolved..., posted by Bobby on November 23, 2004, at 7:30:37
> ...why did we stop?
We still are evolving. I know for a fact that even over the last century the proportion of people who do not even have wisdom teeth is increasing. Who needs to have the suckers out? Just don't grow them in the first place. Like me. ;-)
Lar
Posted by alexandra_k on November 25, 2004, at 23:14:34
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by trucker on November 25, 2004, at 20:43:54
Strictly speaking nobody says we used to be monkeys. The notion is that monkeys and us have a common ancestor. There is a difference.
It is not like all the present day monkeys are all busily evolving to try to be like us. Thank god.
Posted by Poetess on November 26, 2004, at 0:15:36
In reply to Re: If we evolved..., posted by trucker on November 25, 2004, at 20:43:54
It all depends on how the term "evolved" is used. I was *not* using it in reference to biology. I was referring to emotional and social evolution.
By the way, considering how society is constructed I'm not really sure how free my will is...
Poetess
> it's called "free will" and no we didn't evolve!!! we never were nor will we be monkeys.. that is a lie from the pit.. evolution!!!
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> trucker
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> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////> why still an "eye for an eye"?
> > Why do my taxes pay for war?
> > why do we still break some of the 10 commandments:
> > thou shall not kill?
> > Why are we destroying the earth with pollution?
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> > Are we evolving ourselves right out of life?
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> > Jai, scratching her head and wondering
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